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the army air force's has announced that

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a flying disc has been found and is now

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in the possession of the army

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if the game is rigged change the game

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network and kgra the global radio

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i need your help to get to the year

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how you doing today's tuesday november

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but it is beautiful in here let me tell

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hello to everybody out there but

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tonight we have very special guests this

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director roger r richards is here

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so that is the good news but that's that

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that was twitter you can follow me on

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twitter at j church radio all right

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and and go and check everything out but

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that she is totally relieved i could

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about privacy and ethics

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facebook has announced it will stop

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delete more than a billion individual

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use of the technology but back in august

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south korean regulators find facebook

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for 200 000 users and not letting them

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technology earlier this year facebook

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recognition feature violated state

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in response to the lawsuit originally

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facebook had disabled the automatic

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pressure on facebook right now

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that provides context for finding relate

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for findings related to the search for

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writing in the journal nature i read

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everything they proposed creating a

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scale for evaluating and combining

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different lines of evidence that would

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ultimately lead to answering the

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ultimate question

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are we alone in the universe

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in the new article led by jim green the

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agency's chief scientist

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nasa

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offers a sample scale to use as a

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starting point for discussions among

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anyone who would use it such as

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scientists and communicators they

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envision a scale informed by decades of

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experience in astrobiology a field that

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probes the origin of life on earth and

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the possibilities of life

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elsewhere now

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i need you to sit down and listen to

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this next news story

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here we go

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that's because an asteroid

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about the size of a refrigerator

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shot past earth last week

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and astronomers didn't know the object

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existed

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until hours after it was gone

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it was a close call

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the space rocks trajectory

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on october 24th

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carried it over antarctica

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within

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1800 miles

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of earth

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closer than some satellites making it

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the third closest asteroid to approach

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the planet without actually

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hitting it

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scientists were unaware of the object

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dubbed asteroid 2021 ua1

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because it approached earth's daytime

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side from the direction of the sun

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so the comparatively dim and small

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visitor went undetected

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until about four hours after passing by

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at its closest point

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and if that doesn't freak you out

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nothing will

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let's get the show cracking happy

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birthday to today

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david schwemmer

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david schwimmer today is 54 years old

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and i know what you're thinking friends

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not me

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no

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mel-min

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in madagascar

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that made that guy famous

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katie lange today is 60

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and poison's bobby doll today is 58

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years old our dead guy's birthday today

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is

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keith emerson

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1944 to 2016 died at the age of 72.

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keith was a founding member of emerson

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lake and palmer one of the great

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progressive rock super groups emerson

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lake and palmer were huge through much

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of the 1970s one of my favorite bands

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becoming one of the best known for

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progressive rock groups in the world

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keith wroten arranged much of eop's

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music on albums such as tarkus love it

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and brain salad surgery and another

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great album there was um

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i'll come back to this in a second

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there's no question that he was one of

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the most influential keyboardists in the

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world of rock and roll

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and keith died on march 11 2016 at his

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home in santa monica california of a

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self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head

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he committed suicide he had problems

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with his hands he had nerve damage he's

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a keyboard player felt that he couldn't

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play anymore

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and uh up to the standards that people

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expected don't know if that had

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everything to do with it

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but there you go

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all right but uh i think of their live

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album

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and

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uh that opening line welcome back my

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friends to the show that never ends

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and that's keith emerson

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there you go on this day in history once

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again

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in 1947

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i should do a show

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i did years ago i did this a long time

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ago i did a whole feature

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on the year 1947 and everything that not

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everything but but

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some of the big events from 1940 so

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everything happened

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in 1947. nothing happened in 2020

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everything happened in 1947 including

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this

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howard hughes

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pilots his spruce goose

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at one time the largest aircraft ever

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built on its first and only flight

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in long beach harbor

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on this day in 1947.

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fader fact

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in 1984

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astronaut bruce mccandless

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floated in space completely unattached

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to anything

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320

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feet away from the space shuttle

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that takes nad

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do you know what nat is look it up

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it takes a lot of nad

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river moon coffee river moon coffee

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river moon

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rivermoonwellness.com the links are over

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at jimmychurchradio.com fade to black

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blend links are in the description box

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below

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river moon it is the best coffee in the

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world man

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eric the awakening man

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is in the mojave i just shot a video uh

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by the way

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right before show time i'm going to post

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it tomorrow

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um that doesn't make i'm just going to

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hold it up to the camera

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and i i just filmed something crazy in

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the skies pretty cool

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and uh i'm going to cut it up no i need

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to enlarge it

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and then i'm gonna post it tomorrow i'm

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not gonna say anything else

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all right uh where am i what was i

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talking about what was i doing oh river

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moon coffee fade to black blend f2b

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blend that's your promo code

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all the links are at

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jimmychurchradio.com

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all right

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when would the media

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or our own government

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be able to say

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yes

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extraterrestrial life has been found

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when

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how do we ponder the significance

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of new scientific results related to the

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search for extraterrestrial life

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right on mars for example

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europa

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i mean pick a

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pick a moon of jupiter venus

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or an exoplanet

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out there

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how do we do that how do we ponder the

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significance of that announcement

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well the answers to these questions are

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both easy

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the announcements

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of life

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has got to come

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with something definite definitive

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i remember

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when

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meteorites were found in antarctica

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allegedly at the time suspecting that

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they came from mars

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and

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as they

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looked closer at the rocks

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they saw what they felt at the time

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might have been microbial life that was

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fossilized into the meteorites and the

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meteors meteorites are ejected off of

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mars somehow right volcanic eruption

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another

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uh asteroid hits mars maybe ejected the

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debris

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out and it travels across the solar

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system

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and and then impacts earth and it

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survives for millions of years or

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or you know whenever right

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and and i remember looking at

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look

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but then they dismissed it

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but that's not enough

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it was exciting at the time but that is

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not

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enough what would it take

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for that to happen on like something

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like mars now when you look at europa

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or some of the moons of jupiter that

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that have

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water they have oceans covered in ice

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and we've got to get through the ice and

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then get to the ocean

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that's water right now we haven't found

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liquid water pools of water

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yet on on mars where you have a stew you

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have a soup you have a petri dish and

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you have a thing

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that is happening there right okay

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life is water water is life

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haven't found that yet on mars could

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there be something deep down in the soil

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and i'm not talking about fossilized i

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mean something living something organic

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and should we be taking soil samples

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from mars i don't know what they've done

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in the past but i think we have better

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technology today and then inject water

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into it let it sit there for a little

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bit see if something grows see if

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something comes to life is that enough

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no

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upon a time

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but i'm talking about

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extraterrestrial life

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how will that announcement happen

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and what are those standards

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right now

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the way that things are being handled

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we have gone an end around

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of these questions and that search

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because there's other ways to do it

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there's ways to

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to with with telescopes and to measure

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atmospheric evidence and is there oxygen

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are there clouds is there water vapor

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there's

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ways to detect

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and and look at exoplanets uh today and

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and see what's inside of their biosphere

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right

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let's shift this back

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it seems that

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that is going on

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but now with everything that is

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happening here

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uap's sightings contact

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on this planet we're going

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the end around

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and we're going straight

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to what is visiting earth

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right

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now

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is that evidence of extraterrestrial

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a probe crashers let's say the tic tac

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crash is floating on the ocean surface

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we go out and pick it up

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but there's no life in it

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it's just a craft it's just a probe like

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the perseverance rover that we've just

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sent to mars right pioneer 11

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voyager 1 and 2. it's just a probe

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there's no human beings involved right

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and so we pick is that evidence

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of

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extraterrestrial life

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no it is not

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it's proof that something out there

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intelligent is building stuff

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in the the far distant past and it made

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it here

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right it's evidence of that is it

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evidence of

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extraterrestrial life

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no it is not

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now if we take the

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it's cool

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but hear me out i'm talking about

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life

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so

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the other evidence of extraterrestrial

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life and this is the end around that i'm

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talking about

582
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you know you get the probe and you get

583
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,799
the tic tac and you open it up and it's

584
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:26,399
just a probe and there's no little

585
00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:27,840
creature in there

586
00:28:33,830 --> 00:28:29,440
right there's no men in black little

587
00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:33,840
dude you know control no it's not that

588
00:28:39,269 --> 00:28:38,159
but what about these crashed retrievals

589
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:39,279
where

590
00:28:43,669 --> 00:28:42,399
bodies have allegedly been

591
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taken

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00:28:50,230 --> 00:28:46,799
to a base and put on a deep freeze

593
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:50,240
what about those that survived the crash

594
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:52,720
and have been taken somewhere and they

595
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:56,159
lived or are still living

596
00:29:02,149 --> 00:29:00,240
that's evidence of extraterrestrial life

597
00:29:04,950 --> 00:29:02,159
so when we talk about these standards

598
00:29:07,510 --> 00:29:04,960
and and what would be the proof

599
00:29:10,630 --> 00:29:07,520
is it already here on this planet and

600
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:10,640
that issue is being ignored is there a

601
00:29:16,149 --> 00:29:15,200
way to um soft-serve this out to the

602
00:29:17,029 --> 00:29:16,159
public

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00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,039
via

604
00:29:22,149 --> 00:29:19,440
something like the tic tac

605
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:22,159
another uap some other evidence and then

606
00:29:27,029 --> 00:29:25,120
a disclosure of something not built here

607
00:29:29,830 --> 00:29:27,039
has been sent here

608
00:29:32,070 --> 00:29:29,840
and then take it to the next step

609
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:32,080
because the evidence of extraterrestrial

610
00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:36,320
life is something altogether different

611
00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,240
it's not microbial life in a fossil that

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is tens of millions of years old from

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00:29:45,830 --> 00:29:43,760
mars

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00:29:48,549 --> 00:29:45,840
is there life on venus don't know is

615
00:29:50,269 --> 00:29:48,559
there life on europa don't know

616
00:29:52,870 --> 00:29:50,279
is that evidence of

617
00:29:55,510 --> 00:29:52,880
extraterrestrial life

618
00:29:57,590 --> 00:29:55,520
those standards have to be set

619
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right now and this is the last point

620
00:30:06,230 --> 00:30:03,269
even here on this planet

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before homo sapien sapien and if you

622
00:30:12,070 --> 00:30:10,799
back up two billion years

623
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:12,080
when

624
00:30:16,470 --> 00:30:15,600
amoebas were in the ocean

625
00:30:19,110 --> 00:30:16,480
you know

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00:30:23,909 --> 00:30:19,120
single cell multi-cell whatever

627
00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:26,549
if we found that same standard where

628
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:29,520
we've got plants and trees and things

629
00:30:34,830 --> 00:30:32,480
and grass and water

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00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:34,840
and we find evidence of that on another

631
00:30:41,669 --> 00:30:37,360
planet is that

632
00:30:45,830 --> 00:30:43,350
we've got to be very careful now it

633
00:30:49,750 --> 00:30:45,840
would be cool to make those discoveries

634
00:30:51,750 --> 00:30:49,760
but is it that is it the big one and i'm

635
00:30:55,830 --> 00:30:51,760
saying it's not

636
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:55,840
it's not and i'm wondering if this end

637
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:00,080
around that everybody is doing right now

638
00:31:04,630 --> 00:31:03,440
is because they can't necessarily speak

639
00:31:06,870 --> 00:31:04,640
the truth

640
00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:06,880
that there may have been

641
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:09,600
extraterrestrial life here

642
00:31:13,190 --> 00:31:11,919
and the government is in possession of

643
00:31:17,830 --> 00:31:13,200
it

644
00:31:19,590 --> 00:31:17,840
standards these things

645
00:31:22,350 --> 00:31:19,600
are being spoken about now and they're

646
00:31:27,029 --> 00:31:22,360
also in the intelligence budget for

647
00:31:28,870 --> 00:31:27,039
2022. they specifically talk about this

648
00:31:31,269 --> 00:31:28,880
it's very interesting

649
00:31:34,149 --> 00:31:31,279
and that's why roger richards made this

650
00:31:35,110 --> 00:31:34,159
film the observers and he's our guest

651
00:31:37,669 --> 00:31:35,120
tonight

652
00:31:40,630 --> 00:31:37,679
i am your host jimmy church this is fade

653
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:40,640
to black tonight roger r richards here

654
00:31:44,310 --> 00:31:42,880
to discuss the release and premiere of

655
00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:44,320
his new film

656
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:46,559
the observers tomorrow night paula

657
00:31:51,750 --> 00:31:49,919
harris is here the international take

658
00:31:53,830 --> 00:31:51,760
on disclosure what's going on around the

659
00:31:55,669 --> 00:31:53,840
world that's going on tomorrow night

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00:31:58,310 --> 00:31:55,679
thursday is another fader night with

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00:31:59,830 --> 00:31:58,320
open lines all night long

662
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,840
all right i'm yours jimmy church and

663
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:01,120
i'll be right back after this short

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break with our guest

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00:32:34,230 --> 00:32:07,520
roger r richard stay with me

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00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:34,240
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fade to black

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your father's radio show

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on the game changer radio network

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hi this is rob reiner from anvil and

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you're listening to jimmy

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what's up i'm chris what up this

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[Music]

767
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:21,440
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

768
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jimmy church tonight roger r richards is

769
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here tomorrow night paula harris

770
00:37:31,750 --> 00:37:28,960
thursday night is another fader night

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with open lines all night long

772
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but tonight it's all about roger

773
00:37:39,670 --> 00:37:37,920
he joins us to discuss his new film the

774
00:37:42,470 --> 00:37:39,680
observers it's going to release

775
00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,480
worldwide on november 18th

776
00:37:45,750 --> 00:37:44,320
the film features richard nolan linda

777
00:37:47,270 --> 00:37:45,760
moulton howe whitley streeper lou

778
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:47,280
elizondo

779
00:37:52,790 --> 00:37:50,320
with william henry jesse ventura john

780
00:37:55,270 --> 00:37:52,800
greenwald and debbie cobble

781
00:37:58,790 --> 00:37:55,280
and of course yours truly and we discuss

782
00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:58,800
in the film the ufo et reality and what

783
00:38:04,069 --> 00:38:01,280
disclosure means for the future of our

784
00:38:05,829 --> 00:38:04,079
world he's an american film uh maker

785
00:38:08,230 --> 00:38:05,839
he's a poet he's an artist he's an

786
00:38:10,310 --> 00:38:08,240
activist one day he told me said church

787
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,320
let me tell you what an activist is let

788
00:38:15,109 --> 00:38:12,640
me tell you about me scared the crap out

789
00:38:17,190 --> 00:38:15,119
of me but he's known stylistically for

790
00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:17,200
his true conspiracy documentary

791
00:38:22,069 --> 00:38:19,839
aesthetic and his films explore highly

792
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:22,079
controversial and subculture topics that

793
00:38:26,150 --> 00:38:23,440
we can challenge

794
00:38:28,630 --> 00:38:26,160
as viewers and understanding the very

795
00:38:30,310 --> 00:38:28,640
nature of our reality these topics

796
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:30,320
include unacknowledged government

797
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:33,440
programs global political corruption the

798
00:38:37,910 --> 00:38:35,760
jfk assassination we're going to talk

799
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:37,920
about that tonight quantum computing and

800
00:38:43,030 --> 00:38:40,480
other advanced classified technologies

801
00:38:45,750 --> 00:38:43,040
his highly abstract and archetypal

802
00:38:49,349 --> 00:38:45,760
poetry is authored under the pen name

803
00:38:52,230 --> 00:38:49,359
emma gold and his visual and iconic

804
00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,240
multimedia art explores themes of the

805
00:38:57,910 --> 00:38:55,200
occult psychedelia and multi-dimensional

806
00:38:59,910 --> 00:38:57,920
consciousness his work has been seen and

807
00:39:02,069 --> 00:38:59,920
experienced by millions of people around

808
00:39:05,670 --> 00:39:02,079
the world and he has archived a somewhat

809
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:05,680
infamous and mysterious reputation for

810
00:39:09,510 --> 00:39:07,520
exploring these highly controversial

811
00:39:12,790 --> 00:39:09,520
subjects through his films our poetry

812
00:39:15,589 --> 00:39:12,800
and activism i've got a link up for

813
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:15,599
the trailer for the observers and i

814
00:39:19,750 --> 00:39:17,280
would like to welcome back to fade to

815
00:39:22,230 --> 00:39:19,760
black our good friend roger richards

816
00:39:24,069 --> 00:39:22,240
roger what's cracking man

817
00:39:25,589 --> 00:39:24,079
thanks jimmy it's good to be on tonight

818
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,599
it's good to hear your voice man just

819
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:27,599
hanging out here in portland and looking

820
00:39:31,349 --> 00:39:29,440
at the skyline and looking at that uh

821
00:39:34,230 --> 00:39:31,359
rack of guitars behind you there yeah

822
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:34,240
right on well okay all right okay see

823
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:37,040
this is the cool side of roger

824
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:38,640
let me i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna

825
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,880
tell everybody a little story so we're

826
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:42,960
we're shooting the observers

827
00:39:47,990 --> 00:39:45,520
and i walk onto the set this big sound

828
00:39:50,470 --> 00:39:48,000
stage and it's i mean it's big and it's

829
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:50,480
cool it's lit up and there's people and

830
00:39:55,670 --> 00:39:53,839
cameron lights and food and all the

831
00:39:57,670 --> 00:39:55,680
stuff that you expect on a typical

832
00:39:59,270 --> 00:39:57,680
hollywood movie set

833
00:40:02,230 --> 00:39:59,280
including

834
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,240
rogers director chair so i i walk up and

835
00:40:06,550 --> 00:40:04,160
there's this folding director's chair

836
00:40:09,990 --> 00:40:06,560
that says roger r richards on the back

837
00:40:12,710 --> 00:40:10,000
of it it's all embroidered my feet hurt

838
00:40:14,550 --> 00:40:12,720
so i sit down in roger's chair

839
00:40:15,349 --> 00:40:14,560
and roger comes up in back of me and he

840
00:40:16,870 --> 00:40:15,359
says

841
00:40:18,470 --> 00:40:16,880
church

842
00:40:21,190 --> 00:40:18,480
get out of my chair

843
00:40:23,349 --> 00:40:21,200
and i said roger my feet hurt he said

844
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:23,359
get up get off my set

845
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:25,119
get me a cappuccino

846
00:40:31,190 --> 00:40:28,560
i need oat milk i need one scoop of foam

847
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:31,200
on the top because it makes me bloaty i

848
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:32,960
don't want two spoons

849
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:34,560
and get off my set and get me my

850
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:36,720
cappuccino and i stand up man i'm at

851
00:40:41,510 --> 00:40:39,599
attention and i go get director roger r

852
00:40:43,670 --> 00:40:41,520
richards his cappuccino and i come back

853
00:40:45,670 --> 00:40:43,680
and you take it from me and he said now

854
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:45,680
get off the set and i did i walked off

855
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:47,920
the set but i thought man i'm in the

856
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presence

857
00:40:53,430 --> 00:40:51,680
of roger r richards

858
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,440
and that's my story i'm gonna stick to

859
00:40:56,950 --> 00:40:55,280
it roger

860
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,960
i was watching you squirm in that

861
00:41:00,630 --> 00:40:58,640
interview chair man you know for your

862
00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:00,640
audience out there i think this was uh

863
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:02,160
the first time you had been in that

864
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:04,800
interview chair on film if i remember

865
00:41:10,150 --> 00:41:08,000
correctly that that is true that is true

866
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:10,160
and you know what was uh really cool for

867
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:12,000
that moment because we've known each

868
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:15,359
other uh for such a long time and

869
00:41:18,230 --> 00:41:16,960
and i've always talked about working

870
00:41:20,550 --> 00:41:18,240
with each other

871
00:41:22,790 --> 00:41:20,560
and it was all

872
00:41:25,190 --> 00:41:22,800
you know it's all talk but finally we

873
00:41:26,069 --> 00:41:25,200
got a chance to sit down and do it

874
00:41:27,109 --> 00:41:26,079
and

875
00:41:29,589 --> 00:41:27,119
i don't know

876
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:29,599
who was more nervous you or me

877
00:41:33,589 --> 00:41:31,440
i think you were man i was actually

878
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:33,599
really excited you know everybody that

879
00:41:38,069 --> 00:41:35,520
we were being able to pull together for

880
00:41:39,829 --> 00:41:38,079
the cast of this and you know uh be able

881
00:41:42,069 --> 00:41:39,839
to have access to and have conversations

882
00:41:43,670 --> 00:41:42,079
with man i you know i had questions

883
00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:43,680
galore for everyone so i was super

884
00:41:47,349 --> 00:41:45,440
excited that included you too i was

885
00:41:50,150 --> 00:41:47,359
definitely interested to see what's

886
00:41:51,829 --> 00:41:50,160
behind the the you know the persona

887
00:41:53,910 --> 00:41:51,839
that's on the radio here what's what's

888
00:41:55,670 --> 00:41:53,920
the the voice in the face and the spirit

889
00:41:57,349 --> 00:41:55,680
that's connected to why you're doing

890
00:41:59,430 --> 00:41:57,359
this work and i think it really came out

891
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,440
in in the film at least that's what i

892
00:42:03,109 --> 00:42:01,040
see from your your side you know it is

893
00:42:05,910 --> 00:42:03,119
really authentic to

894
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:05,920
uh hear from you your true passions

895
00:42:10,150 --> 00:42:07,839
around this um this community as a

896
00:42:12,710 --> 00:42:10,160
movement and really the you know the

897
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:12,720
long term hall that you have been in in

898
00:42:17,430 --> 00:42:15,040
here but you plan to be in you know for

899
00:42:20,069 --> 00:42:17,440
into the future so uh it was great and

900
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:20,079
it was awesome to uh obviously to have

901
00:42:24,069 --> 00:42:21,520
access to everybody else and have those

902
00:42:26,390 --> 00:42:24,079
incredible conversations man well okay

903
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:26,400
so let me ask you something honest uh

904
00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:28,880
since it's just you and i right sitting

905
00:42:35,270 --> 00:42:32,800
here um is is this uh

906
00:42:38,710 --> 00:42:35,280
you uh have been on fade to black many

907
00:42:39,750 --> 00:42:38,720
times you certainly know what i do for a

908
00:42:42,950 --> 00:42:39,760
gig

909
00:42:46,069 --> 00:42:42,960
now i'm sitting behind you

910
00:42:49,910 --> 00:42:46,079
on set and you are asking the questions

911
00:42:51,829 --> 00:42:49,920
and i got to listen to your style

912
00:42:54,630 --> 00:42:51,839
and and how you approach things and that

913
00:42:56,470 --> 00:42:54,640
was great but did be honest with me man

914
00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:56,480
were you thinking okay church is behind

915
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:58,800
me i got to make this next question spot

916
00:43:02,150 --> 00:42:59,839
on

917
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,160
tell me the truth yeah yeah definitely i

918
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,640
mean i had i had uh you know pressure

919
00:43:08,630 --> 00:43:06,480
from all of you guys and making sure

920
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:08,640
that um you know my questions were

921
00:43:11,589 --> 00:43:10,319
relevant to the topics that you know

922
00:43:13,750 --> 00:43:11,599
we're all tracking in the community

923
00:43:16,950 --> 00:43:13,760
right now which are hyper hyper complex

924
00:43:19,349 --> 00:43:16,960
and to to be able to have the ability to

925
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:19,359
connect with you guys um who are people

926
00:43:23,750 --> 00:43:22,000
that have had this long term

927
00:43:25,910 --> 00:43:23,760
uh you know

928
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:25,920
involvement in this community in all

929
00:43:29,750 --> 00:43:28,160
different avenues in you know whether

930
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:29,760
they're researchers or experiencers or

931
00:43:33,510 --> 00:43:31,760
like yourself you know a radio show host

932
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:33,520
that's you know hold space for many many

933
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:36,480
conversations you know that that

934
00:43:40,069 --> 00:43:38,560
opportunity for me to really kind of sit

935
00:43:42,069 --> 00:43:40,079
with the collective knowledge base of

936
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:42,079
what i knew about all of you guys what

937
00:43:47,109 --> 00:43:44,240
was happening right now here in regards

938
00:43:49,750 --> 00:43:47,119
to the uap report especially and um you

939
00:43:51,349 --> 00:43:49,760
know the disclosure movement uh the the

940
00:43:52,790 --> 00:43:51,359
you know the kind of transformation

941
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,800
that's happening to the disclosure

942
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,560
movement where it's really going beyond

943
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,880
just ufos now and it's going into you

944
00:44:00,950 --> 00:43:58,640
know alternative technologies it's going

945
00:44:03,109 --> 00:44:00,960
into you know secret government projects

946
00:44:04,710 --> 00:44:03,119
that uh you know might have taken

947
00:44:07,510 --> 00:44:04,720
advantage of american citizens these

948
00:44:09,270 --> 00:44:07,520
things are you know really really huge

949
00:44:10,950 --> 00:44:09,280
concepts and

950
00:44:13,109 --> 00:44:10,960
alone within themselves but to be able

951
00:44:15,750 --> 00:44:13,119
to create and we have a tapestry in a

952
00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:15,760
film you know 90 minutes around these

953
00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:17,920
times and the people that were involved

954
00:44:21,349 --> 00:44:19,920
it was an incredible journey for me as

955
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:21,359
an artist to do through the whole

956
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:22,640
experience

957
00:44:26,230 --> 00:44:24,880
but the the the whole team around us and

958
00:44:27,990 --> 00:44:26,240
everybody that came together on this

959
00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:28,000
project everybody that collaborated on

960
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:30,800
it you know it's it it really uh brought

961
00:44:34,950 --> 00:44:33,280
out something special so you know every

962
00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:34,960
single moment sitting with you one of

963
00:44:39,270 --> 00:44:37,200
you guys whether it was you or linda or

964
00:44:41,589 --> 00:44:39,280
dolan or anyone else in that experience

965
00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:41,599
it's like that you know we're rolling

966
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:44,000
and then it begins and for me it's funny

967
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,520
you mentioned you know just kind of my

968
00:44:50,710 --> 00:44:47,920
style as far as an interviewer i like to

969
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:50,720
create conversations i really like to um

970
00:44:53,589 --> 00:44:51,599
you know

971
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:53,599
be in a space of dialoguing with

972
00:44:58,230 --> 00:44:55,359
somebody about the complexities of

973
00:45:00,309 --> 00:44:58,240
issues and then pulling that stuff into

974
00:45:02,470 --> 00:45:00,319
you know the the cutting room floor and

975
00:45:05,109 --> 00:45:02,480
creating that mosaic and that tapestry

976
00:45:06,790 --> 00:45:05,119
out of it and so you know with you i i

977
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:06,800
thought it was real interesting because

978
00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,200
uh you know the the persona of you on

979
00:45:12,870 --> 00:45:11,200
the radio here is like you said you're

980
00:45:15,510 --> 00:45:12,880
hosting you're asking the questions so

981
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,520
watching it flipped back on you and you

982
00:45:19,750 --> 00:45:18,000
actually having to to take a moment to

983
00:45:22,230 --> 00:45:19,760
you know deeply think about these things

984
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,240
and um you know share what your

985
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:24,400
experiences are around this community

986
00:45:27,670 --> 00:45:26,560
and and your feelings around it i think

987
00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:27,680
people are going to see a real different

988
00:45:33,190 --> 00:45:30,960
side of you it was cool to see well um

989
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:33,200
i tried to keep my anger back

990
00:45:39,070 --> 00:45:36,319
and it was kind of funny uh you you got

991
00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,080
the angriest moments

992
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:41,440
[Laughter]

993
00:45:44,550 --> 00:45:42,640
that was pretty cool that was pretty

994
00:45:45,589 --> 00:45:44,560
cool okay um

995
00:45:47,349 --> 00:45:45,599
uh

996
00:45:48,630 --> 00:45:47,359
there is

997
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:48,640
another

998
00:45:53,589 --> 00:45:51,280
i want to talk uh directly about your

999
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:53,599
approach in in making the film

1000
00:45:58,069 --> 00:45:54,640
because

1001
00:46:01,589 --> 00:45:58,079
when uh we originally started talking

1002
00:46:03,430 --> 00:46:01,599
about it and and your vision and things

1003
00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,440
that all sounds great

1004
00:46:07,910 --> 00:46:05,520
right that's

1005
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:07,920
it's always the unachievable but it gets

1006
00:46:12,630 --> 00:46:09,760
the team fired up

1007
00:46:14,870 --> 00:46:12,640
now the film is completed

1008
00:46:16,950 --> 00:46:14,880
i want your take did you make the film

1009
00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:16,960
that you set out to make in the

1010
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:18,720
beginning

1011
00:46:23,829 --> 00:46:21,440
i mean my intention with this film is

1012
00:46:26,309 --> 00:46:23,839
too and was from the beginning to

1013
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:26,319
capture the most relevant conversation

1014
00:46:30,710 --> 00:46:28,480
of all of the variables that are strung

1015
00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:30,720
together that can give people a very

1016
00:46:34,710 --> 00:46:32,160
comprehensive picture of the

1017
00:46:37,430 --> 00:46:34,720
complexities of what disclosure is and

1018
00:46:38,390 --> 00:46:37,440
why it is so extremely relevant to the

1019
00:46:41,190 --> 00:46:38,400
now

1020
00:46:43,030 --> 00:46:41,200
i had no idea kind of the the narrative

1021
00:46:44,630 --> 00:46:43,040
arc that was coming from that uh you

1022
00:46:46,630 --> 00:46:44,640
know as a documentary filmmaker you're

1023
00:46:48,470 --> 00:46:46,640
really just kind of going into the

1024
00:46:49,990 --> 00:46:48,480
experience uh you know looking at your

1025
00:46:52,150 --> 00:46:50,000
different subjects understanding the

1026
00:46:53,910 --> 00:46:52,160
work that they've done researching them

1027
00:46:56,950 --> 00:46:53,920
and formulating you know questions and

1028
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:56,960
conversation starters to to engage them

1029
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,040
to uh you know pull out to that

1030
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:01,040
understanding that humanness and then

1031
00:47:06,230 --> 00:47:03,680
you know so the intentions there were to

1032
00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,240
create that and then what happened in

1033
00:47:11,750 --> 00:47:09,280
that experience you know of the the film

1034
00:47:13,510 --> 00:47:11,760
continually evolving as far as you know

1035
00:47:15,589 --> 00:47:13,520
another player coming on at the last

1036
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,599
minute you know the story evolving and

1037
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:17,440
changing based off of the relevancy of

1038
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:20,319
what was happening with the uap report

1039
00:47:23,990 --> 00:47:21,920
in real time as we were you know

1040
00:47:26,790 --> 00:47:24,000
finishing and concluding with that you

1041
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:26,800
know the the the the thing that i feel

1042
00:47:31,910 --> 00:47:29,440
like um the entire team did and that we

1043
00:47:34,950 --> 00:47:31,920
did in that experience is we rode that

1044
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:34,960
river throughout all of this and at the

1045
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:36,480
closing and we when we had the

1046
00:47:40,390 --> 00:47:38,480
opportunity to finally you know

1047
00:47:42,150 --> 00:47:40,400
put the seal on this thing and put it to

1048
00:47:43,349 --> 00:47:42,160
bed out there as a piece of art for the

1049
00:47:45,990 --> 00:47:43,359
public

1050
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:46,000
you know i think what we captured in all

1051
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:49,040
of this is an incredible story for this

1052
00:47:54,790 --> 00:47:51,760
moment and right now and it goes beyond

1053
00:47:57,109 --> 00:47:54,800
ufos it goes beyond politics it goes

1054
00:48:00,549 --> 00:47:57,119
beyond the separations that we feel of

1055
00:48:02,549 --> 00:48:00,559
right and left uh you know gender man

1056
00:48:05,030 --> 00:48:02,559
woman everything in between everyone in

1057
00:48:07,030 --> 00:48:05,040
between all the the the different

1058
00:48:08,950 --> 00:48:07,040
separations that we have with race with

1059
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:08,960
language with borders and all of that

1060
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:11,599
there's a very common human story here

1061
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:15,119
and it is that you know our origins are

1062
00:48:20,069 --> 00:48:17,119
very complex and our history is very

1063
00:48:23,190 --> 00:48:20,079
complex and it would seem that there has

1064
00:48:27,109 --> 00:48:23,200
been a concerted effort for many many

1065
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:27,119
millennia to uh distort or dissuade that

1066
00:48:32,470 --> 00:48:29,680
story for to a certain extent and what's

1067
00:48:34,230 --> 00:48:32,480
happening now within the reality and the

1068
00:48:35,990 --> 00:48:34,240
paradigm that we're experiencing on the

1069
00:48:38,470 --> 00:48:36,000
breadth of this you know quantum age

1070
00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,480
this transformation into technologies

1071
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:40,880
that go beyond even the capabilities of

1072
00:48:44,790 --> 00:48:42,640
of what you can even fathom in this

1073
00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:44,800
moment the ability to calculate infinity

1074
00:48:50,230 --> 00:48:47,839
essentially those those those the

1075
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:50,240
precipice of that moment here and what

1076
00:48:54,390 --> 00:48:52,559
that means for us collectively in our

1077
00:48:56,470 --> 00:48:54,400
history and remembering and

1078
00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,480
understanding the deeper truths within

1079
00:49:00,950 --> 00:48:58,800
our within ourselves this is what's

1080
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,960
captured in the observers and you know

1081
00:49:05,510 --> 00:49:03,119
the intention around the observers is is

1082
00:49:07,030 --> 00:49:05,520
is kind of like a a dual play on words

1083
00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:07,040
these are people that have been

1084
00:49:10,790 --> 00:49:08,720
observing this phenomenon these

1085
00:49:12,549 --> 00:49:10,800
anomalies you know their entire careers

1086
00:49:14,549 --> 00:49:12,559
or they've been experiencers they've had

1087
00:49:16,309 --> 00:49:14,559
interactions with them but it's also

1088
00:49:19,030 --> 00:49:16,319
around that quantum reality and the

1089
00:49:21,430 --> 00:49:19,040
understanding that this um this this

1090
00:49:24,630 --> 00:49:21,440
this quantum age is upon us and

1091
00:49:26,549 --> 00:49:24,640
understanding the new uh technologies

1092
00:49:28,950 --> 00:49:26,559
how they work the new formulas in that

1093
00:49:31,510 --> 00:49:28,960
world the new science in that space will

1094
00:49:34,069 --> 00:49:31,520
literally change how we perceive our our

1095
00:49:36,630 --> 00:49:34,079
reality and the the understanding of

1096
00:49:38,870 --> 00:49:36,640
entanglement and synchronicities and the

1097
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:38,880
beauty of chaos that refines itself into

1098
00:49:43,430 --> 00:49:40,880
the most perfect moments of pristine

1099
00:49:45,430 --> 00:49:43,440
clarity um and grace that you find in

1100
00:49:47,990 --> 00:49:45,440
your life uh that leads you on your own

1101
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,000
paths and inspiration all of this stuff

1102
00:49:53,589 --> 00:49:50,640
is is is collapsing into the now and

1103
00:49:55,910 --> 00:49:53,599
collapsing into all of us and along with

1104
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,920
all of the separations and things that

1105
00:49:59,510 --> 00:49:57,359
you know have kept us from each other

1106
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,520
and knowing each other this is this is

1107
00:50:03,109 --> 00:50:01,280
the the end of the age in that

1108
00:50:06,309 --> 00:50:03,119
experience and it's a really beautiful

1109
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:06,319
thing to witness um if you are able to

1110
00:50:11,270 --> 00:50:08,800
love the darkness and love the light and

1111
00:50:13,349 --> 00:50:11,280
see the balance and you know uh the

1112
00:50:16,549 --> 00:50:13,359
ability of holding unconditional love

1113
00:50:18,309 --> 00:50:16,559
and surrender and um forgiveness in in

1114
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,319
this experience i think we are really

1115
00:50:21,990 --> 00:50:20,319
really on the precipice of a an amazing

1116
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:22,000
moment and that's what the film is

1117
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,240
captured i feel well you know that was

1118
00:50:29,430 --> 00:50:27,359
spoken in a moment of clarity and i

1119
00:50:30,710 --> 00:50:29,440
appreciate all of that

1120
00:50:33,910 --> 00:50:30,720
but

1121
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:33,920
now i'm gonna make you laugh

1122
00:50:36,309 --> 00:50:35,520
because

1123
00:50:37,670 --> 00:50:36,319
uh

1124
00:50:41,589 --> 00:50:37,680
we were

1125
00:50:45,589 --> 00:50:41,599
given a timeline uh to make this film

1126
00:50:48,309 --> 00:50:45,599
and i was brought on as a producer to

1127
00:50:51,030 --> 00:50:48,319
help okay it's a team effort

1128
00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:51,040
but you guys gave me the schedule we all

1129
00:50:55,430 --> 00:50:53,119
had the schedule but but

1130
00:50:57,190 --> 00:50:55,440
i'm thinking this is

1131
00:51:00,549 --> 00:50:57,200
impossible

1132
00:51:04,069 --> 00:51:00,559
i know what day we're talking today

1133
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:04,079
and i know when november is

1134
00:51:10,790 --> 00:51:07,680
and this is impossible it's go time and

1135
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:10,800
we did we got down to work immediately

1136
00:51:15,990 --> 00:51:13,280
but here's the deal

1137
00:51:17,190 --> 00:51:16,000
we go and we shoot

1138
00:51:18,309 --> 00:51:17,200
and

1139
00:51:20,950 --> 00:51:18,319
normally

1140
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:20,960
when stuff like this gets shot you're

1141
00:51:25,990 --> 00:51:23,680
hoping for a couple of minutes of

1142
00:51:27,190 --> 00:51:26,000
brilliance from each

1143
00:51:30,309 --> 00:51:27,200
person

1144
00:51:32,549 --> 00:51:30,319
and then somehow you can stretch it out

1145
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:32,559
to a complete film right

1146
00:51:36,630 --> 00:51:34,720
that that's the goal

1147
00:51:38,390 --> 00:51:36,640
that's normal

1148
00:51:40,870 --> 00:51:38,400
i was there

1149
00:51:45,030 --> 00:51:40,880
and i saw

1150
00:51:48,829 --> 00:51:45,040
hours and hours and hours of some of the

1151
00:51:51,270 --> 00:51:48,839
most amazing statements and footage

1152
00:51:52,150 --> 00:51:51,280
imaginable and then we go to the next

1153
00:51:57,270 --> 00:51:52,160
day

1154
00:51:59,109 --> 00:51:57,280
and hours and hours of the most

1155
00:52:01,750 --> 00:51:59,119
incredible stuff

1156
00:52:04,549 --> 00:52:01,760
we shot the dinner conversation so we

1157
00:52:08,069 --> 00:52:04,559
had three hours a night of dinner

1158
00:52:09,750 --> 00:52:08,079
conversations that were all recorded

1159
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:09,760
and i stepped back

1160
00:52:15,750 --> 00:52:12,240
and said to you

1161
00:52:18,390 --> 00:52:15,760
well that's a gift but how in the heck

1162
00:52:19,670 --> 00:52:18,400
are you going to make this you've got

1163
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:19,680
too much

1164
00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:20,800
now

1165
00:52:24,549 --> 00:52:23,119
and that is more work than when you

1166
00:52:27,829 --> 00:52:24,559
don't have enough

1167
00:52:31,030 --> 00:52:27,839
you know where to go let's stretch it

1168
00:52:32,950 --> 00:52:31,040
out when you've got too much good stuff

1169
00:52:36,470 --> 00:52:32,960
now you've got to

1170
00:52:39,190 --> 00:52:36,480
force stuff onto the cutting room floor

1171
00:52:40,230 --> 00:52:39,200
and you've got a very limited timeline

1172
00:52:42,870 --> 00:52:40,240
here

1173
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,880
roger to pull this off

1174
00:52:47,349 --> 00:52:44,400
i don't know

1175
00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:47,359
how many hours a day you've worked but

1176
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:49,280
how did you pull that off in such a

1177
00:52:56,950 --> 00:52:53,760
short time span to get this film made

1178
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:56,960
uh the incredible team around the the

1179
00:53:01,270 --> 00:52:58,960
film you know was was really at the core

1180
00:53:03,349 --> 00:53:01,280
of that there's there's no way we could

1181
00:53:05,670 --> 00:53:03,359
have produced what we did in the time

1182
00:53:07,829 --> 00:53:05,680
that we did in the quality that we did

1183
00:53:10,549 --> 00:53:07,839
without just everybody being hands on

1184
00:53:12,309 --> 00:53:10,559
deck in regards to you know the the best

1185
00:53:13,910 --> 00:53:12,319
place that they can contribute so you

1186
00:53:15,589 --> 00:53:13,920
know first i just want to give the team

1187
00:53:17,349 --> 00:53:15,599
which includes you which includes all of

1188
00:53:18,950 --> 00:53:17,359
the talent that came together which

1189
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:18,960
includes all the producers and the

1190
00:53:25,109 --> 00:53:21,359
associate producers the you know the

1191
00:53:26,549 --> 00:53:25,119
crew gear the post uh the post crew that

1192
00:53:28,309 --> 00:53:26,559
everybody that was a part of this team

1193
00:53:30,150 --> 00:53:28,319
which is a very small you know group

1194
00:53:32,549 --> 00:53:30,160
intimate group of people you know i work

1195
00:53:35,349 --> 00:53:32,559
with and have worked with um you know

1196
00:53:38,470 --> 00:53:35,359
very close people over the years uh on

1197
00:53:40,390 --> 00:53:38,480
these films of mine and um i've grown a

1198
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,400
trust and a respect for a lot of people

1199
00:53:45,430 --> 00:53:42,960
these topics are not easy to approach

1200
00:53:47,829 --> 00:53:45,440
and um and and they're they're

1201
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:47,839
constantly commercialized and so trying

1202
00:53:53,109 --> 00:53:50,960
to to find people crews and and you know

1203
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:53,119
post-production people and and you know

1204
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:55,760
producers that not only like understand

1205
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:58,000
okay how to make a great film and do

1206
00:54:03,750 --> 00:54:00,559
that but also to to let a filmmaker tell

1207
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:03,760
a story and and um you know i i tell

1208
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:05,599
crazy stories right now in the in the

1209
00:54:10,230 --> 00:54:07,520
standpoint of of what these films are

1210
00:54:13,829 --> 00:54:10,240
and have been and they rub up against a

1211
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:13,839
lot of the um you know

1212
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:15,920
kind of structures that most people have

1213
00:54:20,710 --> 00:54:18,079
in place about their reality and i think

1214
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:20,720
it's really healthy for people to take

1215
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:22,960
apart their reality at times disassemble

1216
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:24,880
it and reassemble it because it's

1217
00:54:29,030 --> 00:54:26,640
constantly evolving and i think that's

1218
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:29,040
one of the messages in the observers um

1219
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:30,880
and you know that concept in itself it's

1220
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:33,359
like schrodinger's cat you know what you

1221
00:54:37,109 --> 00:54:34,960
choose to desert you know what you

1222
00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:37,119
choose to observe is what's manifest

1223
00:54:40,630 --> 00:54:39,119
here and the sponsoring thought of that

1224
00:54:42,950 --> 00:54:40,640
observation

1225
00:54:46,390 --> 00:54:42,960
it can be hacked and can be infiltrated

1226
00:54:48,710 --> 00:54:46,400
by media and influence all the time and

1227
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:48,720
so disassembling yourself based off of

1228
00:54:53,030 --> 00:54:51,119
your belief systems trying to hold not

1229
00:54:55,270 --> 00:54:53,040
you know extremely bold opinions but

1230
00:54:57,030 --> 00:54:55,280
understand that all you know information

1231
00:54:59,510 --> 00:54:57,040
is information it's just flowing through

1232
00:55:02,230 --> 00:54:59,520
you i always think of that um there's a

1233
00:55:04,150 --> 00:55:02,240
great uh diagram where you know it shows

1234
00:55:06,470 --> 00:55:04,160
an object being lit from three different

1235
00:55:07,990 --> 00:55:06,480
directions and the object is has a

1236
00:55:09,670 --> 00:55:08,000
square shadow on one side a circle

1237
00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:09,680
shadow on another and a triangle on

1238
00:55:15,990 --> 00:55:13,359
another that is the perfect example of

1239
00:55:17,910 --> 00:55:16,000
um you know where we are at right now

1240
00:55:19,589 --> 00:55:17,920
collectively and understanding truth

1241
00:55:22,150 --> 00:55:19,599
people like to think that you know there

1242
00:55:25,030 --> 00:55:22,160
is one unifying truth but the problem is

1243
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:25,040
we can only experience on on on a

1244
00:55:29,030 --> 00:55:27,040
spectrum of perceptions there so what is

1245
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:29,040
truth there for you in that moment it's

1246
00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,119
all determined by your perceptions but

1247
00:55:34,390 --> 00:55:33,200
it's also you know how you perceive what

1248
00:55:36,069 --> 00:55:34,400
are the traumas you're perceiving

1249
00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:36,079
yourself through what are the ego you

1250
00:55:40,230 --> 00:55:38,480
know uh and programming experiences that

1251
00:55:43,030 --> 00:55:40,240
you're perceiving through so

1252
00:55:44,950 --> 00:55:43,040
where i'm at and trying to kind of do

1253
00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:44,960
this work collectively you know with

1254
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:47,200
other artists and collaboration and you

1255
00:55:53,270 --> 00:55:49,599
know people like yourself etc is really

1256
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:53,280
trying to open up the idea that um

1257
00:55:57,589 --> 00:55:55,359
there is an opportunity for us to not

1258
00:55:59,430 --> 00:55:57,599
give anyone a place to divide us anymore

1259
00:56:01,750 --> 00:55:59,440
and that place is understanding that

1260
00:56:03,829 --> 00:56:01,760
everyone holds the truth collectively

1261
00:56:06,630 --> 00:56:03,839
but no one holds it individually and

1262
00:56:08,950 --> 00:56:06,640
that pursuit for truth is continual it

1263
00:56:10,950 --> 00:56:08,960
is infinite and it is what drives all

1264
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:10,960
life through reincarnations through the

1265
00:56:15,990 --> 00:56:13,520
procession of densities however you uh

1266
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,000
you know perceive the spiritual

1267
00:56:21,910 --> 00:56:19,440
incarnation natural science incarnation

1268
00:56:24,069 --> 00:56:21,920
of life and consciousness it is a

1269
00:56:27,030 --> 00:56:24,079
continual infinite procession that we

1270
00:56:29,190 --> 00:56:27,040
are experiencing and um you know the the

1271
00:56:31,510 --> 00:56:29,200
thing that drives that is the search for

1272
00:56:34,069 --> 00:56:31,520
truth and understanding in

1273
00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:34,079
in anyone so when it comes down to the

1274
00:56:38,630 --> 00:56:36,160
observers and and you know at the end of

1275
00:56:40,710 --> 00:56:38,640
this shoot sitting with you know 12 14

1276
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:40,720
hours of like incredible conversations

1277
00:56:45,190 --> 00:56:42,720
you're right it's a it's a madness

1278
00:56:48,309 --> 00:56:45,200
experience for me it really is and and i

1279
00:56:50,230 --> 00:56:48,319
i thank my family continually um you

1280
00:56:52,470 --> 00:56:50,240
know my partner my love

1281
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:52,480
uh for the ability to hold space for me

1282
00:56:56,789 --> 00:56:54,720
in those those places because it's

1283
00:56:59,030 --> 00:56:56,799
highly intuitive it it really is about

1284
00:57:01,109 --> 00:56:59,040
diving into that work and intuiting the

1285
00:57:02,630 --> 00:57:01,119
message like uh you know

1286
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:02,640
like you're a musician so you understand

1287
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:04,160
these things jimmy what it's like to jam

1288
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:05,920
with people you get together sometimes

1289
00:57:09,349 --> 00:57:07,520
there's cohesion and it's great you've

1290
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:09,359
got these awesome jams that turn into

1291
00:57:12,950 --> 00:57:11,359
structures for phrases and songs that

1292
00:57:14,950 --> 00:57:12,960
become hits and then other times there's

1293
00:57:16,950 --> 00:57:14,960
no chemistry the chemistry that was

1294
00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:16,960
happening on the observers is like uh

1295
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:18,960
nothing i have ever experienced ever

1296
00:57:24,069 --> 00:57:21,680
before in any of my films and getting

1297
00:57:25,510 --> 00:57:24,079
into that work at the end and trying to

1298
00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:25,520
you know pull that all together in a

1299
00:57:29,270 --> 00:57:27,520
single vision in 90 minutes it was it

1300
00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:29,280
was intense and everybody carried me

1301
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:30,400
through that we carried each other

1302
00:57:34,309 --> 00:57:32,400
through that and that's what the the

1303
00:57:36,789 --> 00:57:34,319
work represents but all of those other

1304
00:57:38,710 --> 00:57:36,799
hours all of that other footage we are

1305
00:57:41,349 --> 00:57:38,720
releasing throughout this entire

1306
00:57:43,430 --> 00:57:41,359
campaign to raise awareness around you

1307
00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:43,440
know this idea and this movement

1308
00:57:47,430 --> 00:57:45,440
building this observer movement this

1309
00:57:50,150 --> 00:57:47,440
willingness for people to observe

1310
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,160
anomalies to speak about anomalies to to

1311
00:57:54,950 --> 00:57:52,319
transmute the idea of waiting for a

1312
00:57:57,109 --> 00:57:54,960
disclosure into we are observing

1313
00:57:59,430 --> 00:57:57,119
anomalies and we are highlighting them

1314
00:58:01,990 --> 00:57:59,440
and and this is now public knowledge all

1315
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:02,000
of that stuff kind of maturated and you

1316
00:58:06,549 --> 00:58:04,720
know found its gestation in the creative

1317
00:58:08,309 --> 00:58:06,559
collaboration that was the observers and

1318
00:58:11,190 --> 00:58:08,319
it's just starting to sprout right now

1319
00:58:13,910 --> 00:58:11,200
man now they're also uh we've got about

1320
00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:13,920
two minutes um and

1321
00:58:18,390 --> 00:58:15,839
sitting on the inside like i am with

1322
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:18,400
this film enables me to

1323
00:58:20,829 --> 00:58:19,760
to ask the

1324
00:58:23,109 --> 00:58:20,839
the real

1325
00:58:24,549 --> 00:58:23,119
questions exactly dude you've got

1326
00:58:25,270 --> 00:58:24,559
another film

1327
00:58:27,030 --> 00:58:25,280
yeah

1328
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:27,040
you've got an uh

1329
00:58:31,829 --> 00:58:29,680
you have got another film that may be

1330
00:58:35,030 --> 00:58:31,839
even better

1331
00:58:37,990 --> 00:58:35,040
than the observers yes are you going to

1332
00:58:40,230 --> 00:58:38,000
do that yes and this is a long-term

1333
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:40,240
thing like the the idea of the observers

1334
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,400
here and and looking at you know a

1335
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:44,640
movement of observers that are willing

1336
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:47,839
to you know take to the direct action

1337
00:58:52,390 --> 00:58:50,640
digital world which means like you know

1338
00:58:53,829 --> 00:58:52,400
we understand protesting and direct

1339
00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:53,839
action in the world here where we see

1340
00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:55,520
people out on the streets for you know

1341
00:58:59,910 --> 00:58:58,640
black lives matter or you know uh occupy

1342
00:59:01,589 --> 00:58:59,920
these these things these social

1343
00:59:03,910 --> 00:59:01,599
movements that have happened um you know

1344
00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:03,920
that are highlighting this stuff but the

1345
00:59:08,870 --> 00:59:06,079
world is so digital now what does it

1346
00:59:11,349 --> 00:59:08,880
really mean to be direct action you know

1347
00:59:14,069 --> 00:59:11,359
from a digital standpoint and there's a

1348
00:59:15,910 --> 00:59:14,079
lot of ifs oz and butts i mean one of

1349
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:15,920
the things i'm you know been working on

1350
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:18,000
for a while is the austin steinbach

1351
00:59:22,789 --> 00:59:20,720
story which is a totally insane you know

1352
00:59:25,030 --> 00:59:22,799
crazy story and whole but at the root of

1353
00:59:27,190 --> 00:59:25,040
it is really understanding that uh there

1354
00:59:29,109 --> 00:59:27,200
was somebody that you know focused on

1355
00:59:30,789 --> 00:59:29,119
direct action from a digital perspective

1356
00:59:33,829 --> 00:59:30,799
towards a corporation and served you

1357
00:59:36,150 --> 00:59:33,839
know uh time in in jail because of that

1358
00:59:38,710 --> 00:59:36,160
that digital world for us right now to

1359
00:59:41,190 --> 00:59:38,720
actually be proactive in using the town

1360
00:59:43,910 --> 00:59:41,200
squares these social media platforms to

1361
00:59:45,750 --> 00:59:43,920
interact and connect and um you know

1362
00:59:47,430 --> 00:59:45,760
push these topics out there and share

1363
00:59:49,349 --> 00:59:47,440
them that world is getting more

1364
00:59:52,150 --> 00:59:49,359
restricted and more restricted it would

1365
00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:52,160
seem every day and this is an incredible

1366
00:59:57,990 --> 00:59:54,799
opportunity for the people in this

1367
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:58,000
experience to understand that along with

1368
01:00:01,670 --> 01:00:00,000
the quantum age of this technology and

1369
01:00:03,270 --> 01:00:01,680
the powers of that is really

1370
01:00:05,750 --> 01:00:03,280
understanding of like digital

1371
01:00:07,630 --> 01:00:05,760
sovereignty as you as a digital being

1372
01:00:09,670 --> 01:00:07,640
here and that doesn't mean you know the

1373
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:09,680
transhumanism merging of you as a

1374
01:00:12,950 --> 01:00:11,280
digital person it actually means the

1375
01:00:15,270 --> 01:00:12,960
separation and sovereignty of that and

1376
01:00:17,430 --> 01:00:15,280
making sure that your digital imprint

1377
01:00:19,270 --> 01:00:17,440
the things you like the things you take

1378
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:19,280
photographs of on your instagram the

1379
01:00:23,750 --> 01:00:21,680
meals you eat your circles all of this

1380
01:00:26,309 --> 01:00:23,760
data is being calculated against you to

1381
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:26,319
serve you up ads and

1382
01:00:29,910 --> 01:00:28,400
god knows what else in regards to you

1383
01:00:31,349 --> 01:00:29,920
know lots of information out there from

1384
01:00:32,950 --> 01:00:31,359
different whistleblowers and the the

1385
01:00:35,349 --> 01:00:32,960
abilities of these systems and data

1386
01:00:37,910 --> 01:00:35,359
collection and so this world this

1387
01:00:40,470 --> 01:00:37,920
digital world of information that we are

1388
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:40,480
all participating in we have avatars in

1389
01:00:45,510 --> 01:00:43,280
there in the form of our own personality

1390
01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:45,520
profiles based off of all of these

1391
01:00:51,030 --> 01:00:48,799
calculated variables and so the idea of

1392
01:00:53,190 --> 01:00:51,040
having sovereignty in the digital world

1393
01:00:55,589 --> 01:00:53,200
and protecting your information in that

1394
01:00:58,549 --> 01:00:55,599
space and then going to the digital

1395
01:01:01,510 --> 01:00:58,559
world with direct action around you know

1396
01:01:03,750 --> 01:01:01,520
a hashtag a simple hashtag the observers

1397
01:01:06,390 --> 01:01:03,760
is the app it's the ability for you to

1398
01:01:09,030 --> 01:01:06,400
snap a photo did you see a ufo did you

1399
01:01:10,870 --> 01:01:09,040
see bigfoot did you see a ghost did you

1400
01:01:12,549 --> 01:01:10,880
you know need to tell a story about a

1401
01:01:14,870 --> 01:01:12,559
memory that came back to you a

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hypnotherapy regression the ability for

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observer not from the standpoint of

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judgment of anything this is just what

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you've observed that is the power of all

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of us collectively observing the truth

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together and the more those hashtags

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build up and everyone starts sharing

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together on those spaces that observer

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algorithm in the digital world that

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hashtag is archiving this experience

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from all of these people observing these

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anomalies and it will not be able to be

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ignored anymore and it is okay to talk

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about it that is also at the core of

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this message you know in the film here

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now uh

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i'm going to speak last

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before the break but i'm going to say

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this you know

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01:02:02,150 --> 01:02:00,160
we have heads of movie studios listening

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01:02:04,150 --> 01:02:02,160
to this interview right now they're

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listening to you and i so i'm going to

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put everybody on notice including

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yourself

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are we going to see an observer's part 2

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yes or no

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most definitely that's what i'm talking

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about that's my man right there roger

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richards

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we'll be right back

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break i am your host jimmy church

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tonight director roger r richards

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we are announcing and talking about his

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new film the observers i'm your host

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welcome back fade to black i'm nervous

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jimmy church tonight

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01:07:59,589 --> 01:07:56,710
director roger r richards is here

1542
01:08:01,910 --> 01:07:59,599
[Music]

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01:08:03,910 --> 01:08:01,920
talking about his new film it is called

1544
01:08:06,630 --> 01:08:03,920
the observers

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01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:06,640
and uh before i get back into the

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01:08:11,190 --> 01:08:09,520
conversation uh roger uh let's talk

1547
01:08:13,270 --> 01:08:11,200
about uh the key thing here that

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01:08:15,029 --> 01:08:13,280
everybody wants to know the premiere

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01:08:17,829 --> 01:08:15,039
date when is it

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01:08:21,269 --> 01:08:17,839
uh i believe it is november 18th yes

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01:08:24,390 --> 01:08:21,279
november 18th november 18th um

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01:08:25,990 --> 01:08:24,400
when when you get a date like that um

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01:08:29,349 --> 01:08:26,000
that's not your traditional date when

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01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:29,359
you get a date like that are you nervous

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01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:32,080
uh as far as the release date no i'm

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01:08:36,070 --> 01:08:34,000
that's that's that's where i'm not that

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01:08:37,510 --> 01:08:36,080
nervous anymore the the delivery date is

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01:08:39,990 --> 01:08:37,520
the nervous day jimmy you should know

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01:08:41,590 --> 01:08:40,000
that getting it in there and putting the

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01:08:43,349 --> 01:08:41,600
final touches on and making sure that's

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01:08:45,990 --> 01:08:43,359
it that's the nervousness once it's once

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01:08:47,910 --> 01:08:46,000
it's in that's it the delivery date is

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01:08:49,590 --> 01:08:47,920
um you know a great celebration this is

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01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:49,600
where the art gets to be unveiled into

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01:08:54,470 --> 01:08:52,080
the world everyone's hard work um you

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01:08:57,269 --> 01:08:54,480
know you you get to see it come alive i

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01:08:59,030 --> 01:08:57,279
i i've said many times before that you

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know these these pieces of art that we

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01:09:03,990 --> 01:09:01,279
create you know as filmmakers as

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collaborators as um you know little

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groups of of people that are focused on

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doing this work you know for the public

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through the catharsis of creating art

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01:09:14,870 --> 01:09:13,199
they are shamanic objects they have uh

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an entire

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energy and um you know power of their

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own based off of the collective

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contribution and the you know the

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individual archetypes that create the

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unified high procedural of what that uh

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01:09:30,070 --> 01:09:27,359
entire body of work is in that

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experience and so you know that's uh

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essentially what

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any film is from my perspective around

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what we create it's it's the ability to

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use art in direct action it's the

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ability to um you know not be out there

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01:09:48,470 --> 01:09:46,080
smashing windows and setting fires but

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01:09:50,709 --> 01:09:48,480
actually setting fires and smashing

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windows and the cautiousness of people

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that have blocked them out of this

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experience and and really kind of

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lighting the fires of inspiration and

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letting the light in from that

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standpoint through art that's that's

1596
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definitely what i see now after the film

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releases um and i

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there are a couple of key moments we'll

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talk about after the film's release i

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can't wait to tell a couple of stories

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yeah but there is

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um talking about the delivery date right

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and and i know and you know what we were

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going through at that moment

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01:10:26,229 --> 01:10:24,400
and there was a lot of pressure and we

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knew we had a great film

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01:10:31,750 --> 01:10:29,199
but there was a couple of key pieces uh

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that needed to go into play i'm not

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going to get into that but the pressure

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that was on myself you

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uh everybody else involved

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and then things started to click

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and things happened

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01:10:51,590 --> 01:10:48,239
on the delivery date right it was like

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01:10:56,070 --> 01:10:53,990
the pressure and then but this is the

1616
01:10:58,550 --> 01:10:56,080
thing and uh we'll talk about it after

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01:10:59,669 --> 01:10:58,560
the film releases yeah it's a lot of a

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lot of fun

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01:11:05,270 --> 01:11:01,840
but the day after

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01:11:07,910 --> 01:11:05,280
you and i laughed and we

1621
01:11:11,189 --> 01:11:07,920
we had a chance to relax a little bit

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01:11:14,070 --> 01:11:11,199
yeah and go holy crap okay all right but

1623
01:11:15,750 --> 01:11:14,080
uh that was a big relief but that

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01:11:17,189 --> 01:11:15,760
pressure though

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01:11:19,270 --> 01:11:17,199
causes

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01:11:22,709 --> 01:11:19,280
uh creativity

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01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:22,719
it causes magic to happen

1628
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:24,159
and it comes through in this film

1629
01:11:28,790 --> 01:11:26,960
doesn't it i mean seriously i remember

1630
01:11:31,110 --> 01:11:28,800
uh calling you and i said there are two

1631
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:31,120
moments in this film that were a gift

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01:11:34,550 --> 01:11:32,560
they were a gift

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01:11:37,350 --> 01:11:34,560
and that happens only because of

1634
01:11:38,870 --> 01:11:37,360
pressure doesn't it it does definitely

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01:11:40,630 --> 01:11:38,880
and i think you know there's a great

1636
01:11:42,390 --> 01:11:40,640
metaphor of you know uh

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01:11:44,550 --> 01:11:42,400
uh you know pressure creating diamonds

1638
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,560
in that that space that you know clarity

1639
01:11:51,189 --> 01:11:47,280
pristine clarity pristine beauty uh you

1640
01:11:53,510 --> 01:11:51,199
know uh just just worth high quality all

1641
01:11:55,830 --> 01:11:53,520
of those things that that pressure does

1642
01:11:58,550 --> 01:11:55,840
you know as an artist i know that world

1643
01:12:00,310 --> 01:11:58,560
just like so well uh where you can just

1644
01:12:02,870 --> 01:12:00,320
as hard as flop around in your

1645
01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:02,880
imagination fraternity and be happy with

1646
01:12:07,430 --> 01:12:04,719
it like that's the most amazing thing

1647
01:12:09,350 --> 01:12:07,440
about it like you can jam forever but

1648
01:12:11,990 --> 01:12:09,360
what does it mean to actually create a

1649
01:12:14,310 --> 01:12:12,000
piece of art that uh becomes a living

1650
01:12:17,590 --> 01:12:14,320
archetype like i said a shamanic object

1651
01:12:19,430 --> 01:12:17,600
a song or film or you know a painting or

1652
01:12:21,270 --> 01:12:19,440
you know whatever expressions of

1653
01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,280
creation essentially you want cookie

1654
01:12:25,510 --> 01:12:23,600
food or architecture whatever your your

1655
01:12:27,910 --> 01:12:25,520
desires are but when those things

1656
01:12:30,310 --> 01:12:27,920
actually come out of the imagination

1657
01:12:32,709 --> 01:12:30,320
zone and the world of daydreaming and

1658
01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:32,719
you know just the infinite floods of

1659
01:12:37,590 --> 01:12:34,719
creativity and have to be crystallized

1660
01:12:38,950 --> 01:12:37,600
into a format it usually only happens

1661
01:12:40,550 --> 01:12:38,960
with artists under pressure and

1662
01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:40,560
deadlines because you know that's the

1663
01:12:44,790 --> 01:12:42,239
only way to wrangle us in that

1664
01:12:47,030 --> 01:12:44,800
experience and so for an artist like i

1665
01:12:48,709 --> 01:12:47,040
know many people that you know have a

1666
01:12:50,550 --> 01:12:48,719
very traumatic relationship with

1667
01:12:52,550 --> 01:12:50,560
deadlines in their life as artists you

1668
01:12:55,189 --> 01:12:52,560
know and it brings up a lot of trauma

1669
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:55,199
for me i get more hyper focused i get

1670
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:58,560
more clear i get more the pressure and i

1671
01:13:02,149 --> 01:13:00,400
and that's what i love about this team

1672
01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:02,159
too it's like we are all in that

1673
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,480
experience where you know the the the

1674
01:13:08,229 --> 01:13:06,080
more pressure that's there the more

1675
01:13:10,470 --> 01:13:08,239
that's needed from the collective all of

1676
01:13:12,790 --> 01:13:10,480
us kind of leaned in into that space and

1677
01:13:15,110 --> 01:13:12,800
we're just hammering away and all of the

1678
01:13:17,030 --> 01:13:15,120
different um avenues to to button this

1679
01:13:18,950 --> 01:13:17,040
thing up and get it done and then me as

1680
01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:18,960
the filmmaker just organizing the story

1681
01:13:23,189 --> 01:13:20,960
and just making sure that it was there

1682
01:13:25,189 --> 01:13:23,199
based off of everything uh yeah that

1683
01:13:27,189 --> 01:13:25,199
those moments i mean i didn't sleep you

1684
01:13:29,830 --> 01:13:27,199
know i think i slept that last week

1685
01:13:32,310 --> 01:13:29,840
before delivery date you know maybe two

1686
01:13:33,990 --> 01:13:32,320
hours a day for you know seven days

1687
01:13:36,070 --> 01:13:34,000
straight like literally just grinding

1688
01:13:37,510 --> 01:13:36,080
and then flying down to drop the master

1689
01:13:39,910 --> 01:13:37,520
and all of those things and i was seeing

1690
01:13:41,590 --> 01:13:39,920
vapor trails at that point everybody was

1691
01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:41,600
just you know living in an alternate

1692
01:13:45,350 --> 01:13:43,520
reality and that was part of what was

1693
01:13:47,270 --> 01:13:45,360
amazing about the film is actually being

1694
01:13:50,070 --> 01:13:47,280
in in touch with that experience of

1695
01:13:52,229 --> 01:13:50,080
pulling that stuff in so uh yeah the the

1696
01:13:54,229 --> 01:13:52,239
the pressure creates diamonds man and

1697
01:13:56,470 --> 01:13:54,239
and the pressure wrangles the the

1698
01:13:58,550 --> 01:13:56,480
creative spirit of infinity into

1699
01:13:59,270 --> 01:13:58,560
something that embodies into an object

1700
01:14:04,950 --> 01:13:59,280
that

1701
01:14:08,709 --> 01:14:04,960
interact with you were able to and i

1702
01:14:09,990 --> 01:14:08,719
didn't i didn't see it at the time uh i

1703
01:14:13,750 --> 01:14:10,000
was there for the filming i was

1704
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:13,760
listening to the questions but you were

1705
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:17,600
uh asking these questions in 3d

1706
01:14:22,630 --> 01:14:19,920
because you're picturing the film uh

1707
01:14:24,470 --> 01:14:22,640
later on and only you know what is going

1708
01:14:26,709 --> 01:14:24,480
on inside of your head and how you were

1709
01:14:31,030 --> 01:14:26,719
going to weave these things together

1710
01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:31,040
now um this isn't uh um i'm not giving

1711
01:14:35,189 --> 01:14:33,040
away anything in the film

1712
01:14:36,390 --> 01:14:35,199
uh i don't want to do that

1713
01:14:43,590 --> 01:14:36,400
but

1714
01:14:45,830 --> 01:14:43,600
there is a section of the film that

1715
01:14:50,149 --> 01:14:45,840
involves jfk

1716
01:14:53,510 --> 01:14:50,159
and this section of the film with jfk

1717
01:14:55,669 --> 01:14:53,520
has virtually nothing to do with ufos or

1718
01:14:56,390 --> 01:14:55,679
et's or contact

1719
01:14:59,270 --> 01:14:56,400
but

1720
01:15:01,910 --> 01:14:59,280
the questions that you asked of

1721
01:15:03,030 --> 01:15:01,920
everybody and the way that you were able

1722
01:15:12,870 --> 01:15:03,040
to

1723
01:15:14,790 --> 01:15:12,880
was pretty incredible did you have that

1724
01:15:15,910 --> 01:15:14,800
from the word go and i want everyone

1725
01:15:17,669 --> 01:15:15,920
when you see the film you're going to

1726
01:15:18,709 --> 01:15:17,679
know exactly what i'm talking about

1727
01:15:21,110 --> 01:15:18,719
everybody

1728
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:21,120
but did you have that plan was that

1729
01:15:24,550 --> 01:15:22,400
pre-planned

1730
01:15:26,310 --> 01:15:24,560
i wasn't i mean the conversation was

1731
01:15:28,229 --> 01:15:26,320
pre-planned i wanted to have that with

1732
01:15:30,310 --> 01:15:28,239
everyone and see what came out of that

1733
01:15:33,110 --> 01:15:30,320
you know i've been tracking the jfk

1734
01:15:34,870 --> 01:15:33,120
story for you know forever in my life

1735
01:15:36,709 --> 01:15:34,880
around you know conspiracy theory

1736
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:36,719
investigation et cetera it's it's the

1737
01:15:41,189 --> 01:15:39,120
origin of that word in itself and i

1738
01:15:42,630 --> 01:15:41,199
always look as a poet and as an artist

1739
01:15:45,430 --> 01:15:42,640
that uses word

1740
01:15:47,270 --> 01:15:45,440
words as the uh at the entomology of

1741
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:47,280
words and actually the vibrations and

1742
01:15:53,189 --> 01:15:51,280
the use of those uh those uh sounds and

1743
01:15:55,750 --> 01:15:53,199
within their entomology and so the idea

1744
01:15:57,750 --> 01:15:55,760
of the conspiracy theory that word being

1745
01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:57,760
associated with the trauma and the event

1746
01:16:01,669 --> 01:15:59,920
of you know the you know in some

1747
01:16:03,189 --> 01:16:01,679
people's minds the most you know

1748
01:16:05,110 --> 01:16:03,199
greatest american president that you

1749
01:16:07,030 --> 01:16:05,120
know has existed in some spaces

1750
01:16:09,750 --> 01:16:07,040
regardless of him you know being the

1751
01:16:12,310 --> 01:16:09,760
best or whatever he was a massive

1752
01:16:15,350 --> 01:16:12,320
representation at the time in the 60s of

1753
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:15,360
a transforming world in regards to race

1754
01:16:19,590 --> 01:16:17,760
in regards to gender in regards to

1755
01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:19,600
transparency with the government in

1756
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:22,239
regards to military industrial complex

1757
01:16:28,790 --> 01:16:25,360
uh these these things you know are

1758
01:16:31,189 --> 01:16:28,800
incredibly relevant around jfk as an

1759
01:16:34,390 --> 01:16:31,199
archetype and his killing and his

1760
01:16:36,390 --> 01:16:34,400
assassination and the um embodiment and

1761
01:16:38,470 --> 01:16:36,400
canonization and the spell casting that

1762
01:16:40,709 --> 01:16:38,480
is used through the idea of conspiracy

1763
01:16:42,950 --> 01:16:40,719
theory as a term has been something that

1764
01:16:44,709 --> 01:16:42,960
i've been pulling apart for a long time

1765
01:16:46,950 --> 01:16:44,719
and so you know the the way that i

1766
01:16:48,630 --> 01:16:46,960
transmute it in my work is looking at um

1767
01:16:50,390 --> 01:16:48,640
you know creating a new genre very much

1768
01:16:52,149 --> 01:16:50,400
like true crime and you know we're

1769
01:16:54,310 --> 01:16:52,159
focusing on true conspiracy of really

1770
01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:54,320
kind of pulling out the different

1771
01:16:59,030 --> 01:16:56,880
observations around these anomalous

1772
01:17:01,350 --> 01:16:59,040
things that don't add up and so with

1773
01:17:03,669 --> 01:17:01,360
kennedy the thing that's you know and

1774
01:17:05,750 --> 01:17:03,679
it's not necessarily directly related to

1775
01:17:07,669 --> 01:17:05,760
the the ufos here like you had pointed

1776
01:17:09,110 --> 01:17:07,679
out in this um you know there are some

1777
01:17:10,709 --> 01:17:09,120
things that you know some of the people

1778
01:17:12,310 --> 01:17:10,719
comment on that are you know looking at

1779
01:17:14,630 --> 01:17:12,320
those aspects that are interesting to

1780
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:14,640
look at but really at the core of what

1781
01:17:19,030 --> 01:17:16,960
kennedy represents is the idea of

1782
01:17:20,950 --> 01:17:19,040
internessing warfare the idea that our

1783
01:17:23,510 --> 01:17:20,960
intelligence agencies our intelligence

1784
01:17:25,189 --> 01:17:23,520
apparatus does not work with each other

1785
01:17:27,470 --> 01:17:25,199
in the best interest for the american

1786
01:17:29,510 --> 01:17:27,480
people and fact that they they have been

1787
01:17:33,430 --> 01:17:29,520
compartmentalized and in some places

1788
01:17:35,189 --> 01:17:33,440
completely rogue in in their um you know

1789
01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:35,199
abilities to run their own programs to

1790
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:36,800
fund their own programs through black

1791
01:17:42,630 --> 01:17:39,280
budgets and you know all different types

1792
01:17:44,390 --> 01:17:42,640
of you know extreme means that are not

1793
01:17:46,149 --> 01:17:44,400
in alignment with the idea of what i

1794
01:17:47,750 --> 01:17:46,159
think the american taxpayer wants to see

1795
01:17:50,070 --> 01:17:47,760
their dollars be spent on in these

1796
01:17:52,550 --> 01:17:50,080
programs and so the idea of internessing

1797
01:17:55,430 --> 01:17:52,560
warfare between these agencies that

1798
01:17:58,229 --> 01:17:55,440
began you know back in the 60s and and

1799
01:18:00,310 --> 01:17:58,239
has been marching forward up until now

1800
01:18:03,350 --> 01:18:00,320
you know the battles between the nsa the

1801
01:18:05,990 --> 01:18:03,360
cia the dia the fbi all of these you

1802
01:18:08,630 --> 01:18:06,000
know 17 intelligence agencies now it's

1803
01:18:11,110 --> 01:18:08,640
18 here in regards to the uh the space

1804
01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:11,120
force but that whole

1805
01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:13,600
apparatus there the internecing warfare

1806
01:18:19,350 --> 01:18:16,159
is what is at the absolute core of the

1807
01:18:21,510 --> 01:18:19,360
ufo uh phenomenon if these intelligence

1808
01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:21,520
agencies that had access to these

1809
01:18:27,110 --> 01:18:24,000
different events that happened they had

1810
01:18:29,510 --> 01:18:27,120
access to these technologies um the you

1811
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:29,520
know they were open about these things

1812
01:18:34,550 --> 01:18:32,159
and it was public about them you know

1813
01:18:36,870 --> 01:18:34,560
there would be a whole transformation in

1814
01:18:38,390 --> 01:18:36,880
regards to our society right now and

1815
01:18:39,750 --> 01:18:38,400
that's essentially what we're pulling

1816
01:18:40,390 --> 01:18:39,760
out through the observers and the idea

1817
01:18:41,910 --> 01:18:40,400
of

1818
01:18:44,470 --> 01:18:41,920
choosing to observe collectively

1819
01:18:46,870 --> 01:18:44,480
together these anomalies and so with the

1820
01:18:49,590 --> 01:18:46,880
jfk thing and the fact that the jfk

1821
01:18:51,750 --> 01:18:49,600
files have been sealed for so long you

1822
01:18:53,270 --> 01:18:51,760
know and jesse ventura gave a great

1823
01:18:54,709 --> 01:18:53,280
great section in this that was really

1824
01:18:57,270 --> 01:18:54,719
focused on that because he was heavily

1825
01:18:59,350 --> 01:18:57,280
involved in those researchers as uh as

1826
01:19:01,750 --> 01:18:59,360
an independent you know person there but

1827
01:19:03,830 --> 01:19:01,760
also as the governor of minnesota

1828
01:19:05,510 --> 01:19:03,840
somebody that had access to you know

1829
01:19:07,350 --> 01:19:05,520
additional information and was looking

1830
01:19:09,990 --> 01:19:07,360
at these things so you know he gives a

1831
01:19:12,470 --> 01:19:10,000
really really great uh perspective and

1832
01:19:13,830 --> 01:19:12,480
whole around those things uh that

1833
01:19:16,070 --> 01:19:13,840
happened with kennedy and how they

1834
01:19:18,470 --> 01:19:16,080
played out but the interneting warfare

1835
01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:18,480
and the the the inability for our

1836
01:19:22,709 --> 01:19:20,159
intelligence apparatus to work

1837
01:19:24,870 --> 01:19:22,719
collectively together in an honest way

1838
01:19:26,950 --> 01:19:24,880
for the american people is at the core

1839
01:19:28,790 --> 01:19:26,960
of the u.s biology uh

1840
01:19:31,990 --> 01:19:28,800
at the core of the ufo and uap

1841
01:19:32,870 --> 01:19:32,000
phenomenon here but also uh you know the

1842
01:19:34,709 --> 01:19:32,880
main

1843
01:19:36,229 --> 01:19:34,719
focus of the disclosure movement has

1844
01:19:37,590 --> 01:19:36,239
been trying to get these people to give

1845
01:19:39,910 --> 01:19:37,600
it to us right well it's not going to

1846
01:19:41,990 --> 01:19:39,920
happen and that's what this whole film

1847
01:19:44,990 --> 01:19:42,000
is kind of like bringing together in the

1848
01:19:46,790 --> 01:19:45,000
wider perspective of how that

1849
01:19:49,030 --> 01:19:46,800
compartmentalization causes a

1850
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:49,040
schizophrenic reality for our

1851
01:19:52,550 --> 01:19:50,719
governmental systems and that's what's

1852
01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:52,560
coming up for us right now we're seeing

1853
01:19:56,390 --> 01:19:54,640
that in the right left battles the the

1854
01:19:58,390 --> 01:19:56,400
intense political agendas that are

1855
01:19:59,750 --> 01:19:58,400
associated with you know the medical

1856
01:20:02,149 --> 01:19:59,760
things that are going on right now there

1857
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:02,159
are many many different things that are

1858
01:20:07,910 --> 01:20:04,480
playing into this political system that

1859
01:20:10,310 --> 01:20:07,920
is sick and dying and wanting to be put

1860
01:20:13,510 --> 01:20:10,320
out of its freaking misery and so the

1861
01:20:14,950 --> 01:20:13,520
ability for us to to watch this machine

1862
01:20:17,590 --> 01:20:14,960
collapse

1863
01:20:20,310 --> 01:20:17,600
why we rebuild a new world for ourselves

1864
01:20:22,229 --> 01:20:20,320
collectively from a grassroots level and

1865
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:22,239
not have them rebuild the cage for us

1866
01:20:26,390 --> 01:20:24,239
that we just kind of walk into on a you

1867
01:20:27,990 --> 01:20:26,400
know a great reset but we actually

1868
01:20:30,149 --> 01:20:28,000
rebuild and we don't allow this

1869
01:20:32,470 --> 01:20:30,159
experience to happen again that's what's

1870
01:20:35,830 --> 01:20:32,480
being provided right now to to people we

1871
01:20:37,590 --> 01:20:35,840
can recraft our reality we we can create

1872
01:20:40,310 --> 01:20:37,600
this reality based off of what we

1873
01:20:41,910 --> 01:20:40,320
collectively collectively observe and if

1874
01:20:44,709 --> 01:20:41,920
we observe

1875
01:20:46,790 --> 01:20:44,719
beauty grace healing

1876
01:20:49,270 --> 01:20:46,800
all of the abundance that can come with

1877
01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:49,280
inaudible human rights meaning housing

1878
01:20:54,229 --> 01:20:52,080
health care you know education for every

1879
01:20:56,070 --> 01:20:54,239
human on this planet we manifest that

1880
01:20:58,070 --> 01:20:56,080
through what we observe and we change

1881
01:20:59,750 --> 01:20:58,080
reality overnight and these old systems

1882
01:21:01,110 --> 01:20:59,760
are gone and the new systems are ushered

1883
01:21:03,590 --> 01:21:01,120
in in ways that we would never have

1884
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:03,600
imagined in that process well so you

1885
01:21:10,310 --> 01:21:07,199
have this label of activist

1886
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:10,320
and and hearing that it sounds like

1887
01:21:16,310 --> 01:21:13,600
you're living that label you are

1888
01:21:19,430 --> 01:21:16,320
delivering that label but for you what

1889
01:21:21,430 --> 01:21:19,440
is the definition what is an activist

1890
01:21:25,270 --> 01:21:21,440
well you know an activist is anybody

1891
01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:25,280
that is is actively participating in a

1892
01:21:30,229 --> 01:21:28,320
campaign to raise awareness you know uh

1893
01:21:32,310 --> 01:21:30,239
some type of injustice you know socially

1894
01:21:35,350 --> 01:21:32,320
or otherwise that's that's the general

1895
01:21:37,669 --> 01:21:35,360
you know term of an activist but what it

1896
01:21:40,709 --> 01:21:37,679
means to me and why i choose to

1897
01:21:43,590 --> 01:21:40,719
associate myself with that term um is

1898
01:21:46,310 --> 01:21:43,600
because it is it's it's really about the

1899
01:21:48,870 --> 01:21:46,320
choice to constantly be active in

1900
01:21:51,590 --> 01:21:48,880
crafting your reality as a creator as

1901
01:21:53,590 --> 01:21:51,600
opposed to surrendering your sovereignty

1902
01:21:55,590 --> 01:21:53,600
to the idea of being governed and those

1903
01:21:57,830 --> 01:21:55,600
go back to the core of my anarchist

1904
01:22:00,229 --> 01:21:57,840
principles that i've held you know the

1905
01:22:03,270 --> 01:22:00,239
entirety of my life pretty much in my

1906
01:22:06,629 --> 01:22:03,280
own understanding of natural law and um

1907
01:22:07,669 --> 01:22:06,639
accountability and morality and so these

1908
01:22:10,149 --> 01:22:07,679
things

1909
01:22:12,470 --> 01:22:10,159
from the standpoint of an activist when

1910
01:22:13,350 --> 01:22:12,480
it comes to me and how i perceive that

1911
01:22:15,350 --> 01:22:13,360
are

1912
01:22:16,950 --> 01:22:15,360
you know parallel to me being an artist

1913
01:22:18,790 --> 01:22:16,960
the artist and the activists in me is

1914
01:22:21,990 --> 01:22:18,800
the same thing it's that high procedural

1915
01:22:25,510 --> 01:22:22,000
of those two archetypes i create art as

1916
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:25,520
you know a weapon and a tool to uh help

1917
01:22:29,750 --> 01:22:28,080
take down and rebuild the experiences

1918
01:22:31,910 --> 01:22:29,760
that i feel like that need to happen on

1919
01:22:33,750 --> 01:22:31,920
a better level that serve people their

1920
01:22:36,070 --> 01:22:33,760
sovereignty and hold them accountable in

1921
01:22:37,510 --> 01:22:36,080
those experiences and so the the

1922
01:22:39,590 --> 01:22:37,520
movements that i've been a part of in

1923
01:22:41,510 --> 01:22:39,600
the past whether they've been anti-war

1924
01:22:43,669 --> 01:22:41,520
march against monsanto or you know

1925
01:22:45,750 --> 01:22:43,679
occupy these experiences where i've

1926
01:22:49,030 --> 01:22:45,760
participated as an activist whether it's

1927
01:22:50,550 --> 01:22:49,040
been an organizer or uh you know uh just

1928
01:22:54,229 --> 01:22:50,560
part of the crowds essentially in those

1929
01:22:56,629 --> 01:22:54,239
spaces that that that ability and choice

1930
01:22:59,189 --> 01:22:56,639
to be active in the world and changing

1931
01:23:01,430 --> 01:22:59,199
it really defines for me that that

1932
01:23:03,270 --> 01:23:01,440
identity of an activist but for me it's

1933
01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:03,280
it's synonymous in my work with the

1934
01:23:08,149 --> 01:23:05,840
artist the artist activist artist

1935
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:08,159
activist artist archetype yeah and and

1936
01:23:13,510 --> 01:23:10,560
what is interesting uh this is theater

1937
01:23:16,470 --> 01:23:13,520
of the mind so for the audience i want

1938
01:23:19,030 --> 01:23:16,480
you to understand what i am seeing

1939
01:23:21,669 --> 01:23:19,040
friggin roger's got a black hoodie on

1940
01:23:22,629 --> 01:23:21,679
he's in the dark i can barely see his

1941
01:23:25,110 --> 01:23:22,639
face

1942
01:23:28,229 --> 01:23:25,120
and it's like this uh

1943
01:23:30,470 --> 01:23:28,239
this this that we have to mask his face

1944
01:23:32,550 --> 01:23:30,480
for this interview

1945
01:23:34,709 --> 01:23:32,560
and and really it's just like i have an

1946
01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:34,719
old burnt out bulb in here i'm comfy

1947
01:23:39,270 --> 01:23:37,440
it's warm my hoodie's snuggly i'm in bed

1948
01:23:41,510 --> 01:23:39,280
it's it's hilarious i mean that's that's

1949
01:23:43,110 --> 01:23:41,520
such a good metaphor for i think you

1950
01:23:45,430 --> 01:23:43,120
know when you were reading my bio i was

1951
01:23:47,590 --> 01:23:45,440
cracking up because i do have somewhat

1952
01:23:50,390 --> 01:23:47,600
of like an infamous reputation for the

1953
01:23:52,149 --> 01:23:50,400
work there and there are many different

1954
01:23:54,550 --> 01:23:52,159
thoughts and ideas and opinions out

1955
01:23:56,070 --> 01:23:54,560
there of people that try to you know

1956
01:23:58,390 --> 01:23:56,080
kind of label or give their opinions

1957
01:24:00,070 --> 01:23:58,400
about me and that's okay i'm happy to be

1958
01:24:01,590 --> 01:24:00,080
whatever i need to be for anyone out

1959
01:24:04,149 --> 01:24:01,600
there in that experience that's part of

1960
01:24:06,310 --> 01:24:04,159
kind of the heyoka

1961
01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:06,320
path that i have kind of chosen in the

1962
01:24:10,870 --> 01:24:08,560
work that i do as a catalyst for people

1963
01:24:12,709 --> 01:24:10,880
but also the work that i do for myself

1964
01:24:14,629 --> 01:24:12,719
and the catharsis of understanding my

1965
01:24:16,629 --> 01:24:14,639
own story and my own traumas and those

1966
01:24:18,229 --> 01:24:16,639
experiences and so

1967
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:18,239
i've always been attracted to real dark

1968
01:24:22,229 --> 01:24:20,080
stuff jimmy you know i love heavy metal

1969
01:24:25,110 --> 01:24:22,239
music i grew up listening to it you know

1970
01:24:28,470 --> 01:24:25,120
i i loved dark comedy i loved horror

1971
01:24:31,830 --> 01:24:28,480
movies i loved uh you know uh karen like

1972
01:24:34,470 --> 01:24:31,840
finding bones in the forest i i i the

1973
01:24:37,110 --> 01:24:34,480
the ability to love darkness and and

1974
01:24:39,270 --> 01:24:37,120
find beauty in it is something that um

1975
01:24:42,550 --> 01:24:39,280
you know i really hold dear to myself

1976
01:24:45,030 --> 01:24:42,560
because it has been a key part of being

1977
01:24:47,110 --> 01:24:45,040
able to access the the greatest well of

1978
01:24:48,709 --> 01:24:47,120
of uh you know unconditional love i've

1979
01:24:50,790 --> 01:24:48,719
ever experienced in my life and to

1980
01:24:53,030 --> 01:24:50,800
really look at the atrocities that are

1981
01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:53,040
happening in this world right now the

1982
01:24:56,790 --> 01:24:55,040
the the service itself greed that drives

1983
01:24:59,189 --> 01:24:56,800
people the suffering that they put each

1984
01:25:01,189 --> 01:24:59,199
other through uh the torture that they

1985
01:25:02,950 --> 01:25:01,199
um lay upon each other and

1986
01:25:06,149 --> 01:25:02,960
themselves

1987
01:25:08,470 --> 01:25:06,159
if you don't have the ability to

1988
01:25:10,470 --> 01:25:08,480
surrender and cry in the beauty for that

1989
01:25:12,070 --> 01:25:10,480
suffering and that catalyst for all of

1990
01:25:14,550 --> 01:25:12,080
us growing together choosing to

1991
01:25:17,430 --> 01:25:14,560
experience that um

1992
01:25:18,870 --> 01:25:17,440
there is really no ability in my opinion

1993
01:25:20,629 --> 01:25:18,880
to actually utilize this whole

1994
01:25:22,709 --> 01:25:20,639
experience you're then living in you

1995
01:25:26,149 --> 01:25:22,719
know in an off-balance way in some form

1996
01:25:28,070 --> 01:25:26,159
or another so yep i'm big and scary and

1997
01:25:30,550 --> 01:25:28,080
got a big dark hoodie right here and the

1998
01:25:33,350 --> 01:25:30,560
lights are creepy but i'm just a big

1999
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:33,360
snuggly teddy bear that's in a hoodie

2000
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,840
it's just comfy your secret is safe with

2001
01:25:39,510 --> 01:25:37,040
me

2002
01:25:41,430 --> 01:25:39,520
okay we'll we'll keep the dark image

2003
01:25:43,510 --> 01:25:41,440
yeah that roger richards guy scares the

2004
01:25:44,950 --> 01:25:43,520
crap out of me that's right you better

2005
01:25:47,750 --> 01:25:44,960
better watch yourself

2006
01:25:50,870 --> 01:25:47,760
but um i wanted to ask you uh because

2007
01:25:53,430 --> 01:25:50,880
we've got so many familiar uh names in

2008
01:25:55,430 --> 01:25:53,440
this film uh you know the best and the

2009
01:25:57,430 --> 01:25:55,440
brightest there's no doubt about that

2010
01:25:59,510 --> 01:25:57,440
but um

2011
01:26:02,550 --> 01:25:59,520
i think the world is getting introduced

2012
01:26:04,070 --> 01:26:02,560
to somebody very very special and that's

2013
01:26:05,110 --> 01:26:04,080
debbie cobble

2014
01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:05,120
um

2015
01:26:12,950 --> 01:26:05,920
and

2016
01:26:15,270 --> 01:26:12,960
contribution to this film i i don't

2017
01:26:17,350 --> 01:26:15,280
think it could be really measured

2018
01:26:18,870 --> 01:26:17,360
but uh what did she bring to the film

2019
01:26:21,990 --> 01:26:18,880
for you

2020
01:26:23,830 --> 01:26:22,000
you know debbie was an incredible person

2021
01:26:25,750 --> 01:26:23,840
that came with linda there you know

2022
01:26:27,590 --> 01:26:25,760
linda has connected with debbie over the

2023
01:26:30,390 --> 01:26:27,600
years and um

2024
01:26:32,709 --> 01:26:30,400
debbie is an experiencer that's uh you

2025
01:26:35,590 --> 01:26:32,719
know had contact and

2026
01:26:37,590 --> 01:26:35,600
you know work with bud hopkins too

2027
01:26:40,629 --> 01:26:37,600
back in the day in regards to you know

2028
01:26:43,189 --> 01:26:40,639
her experiences etc and linda brought

2029
01:26:45,430 --> 01:26:43,199
her forward in here as as part of you

2030
01:26:47,830 --> 01:26:45,440
know the idea of bringing an experiencer

2031
01:26:49,350 --> 01:26:47,840
in that that wasn't you know a big

2032
01:26:51,030 --> 01:26:49,360
a-list you know from the standpoint of

2033
01:26:54,149 --> 01:26:51,040
the ufology world but somebody that had

2034
01:26:56,229 --> 01:26:54,159
a very very sincere memorable experience

2035
01:26:58,070 --> 01:26:56,239
that um you know was really grounded and

2036
01:27:00,470 --> 01:26:58,080
balanced in that i mean whitley strieber

2037
01:27:02,870 --> 01:27:00,480
is is is obviously in that same world

2038
01:27:05,030 --> 01:27:02,880
too but he's also an author and and has

2039
01:27:07,590 --> 01:27:05,040
been you know a big part of this

2040
01:27:09,510 --> 01:27:07,600
community sense communion and the the

2041
01:27:11,590 --> 01:27:09,520
embodiment of that gray on the cover of

2042
01:27:13,270 --> 01:27:11,600
that um you know that book then and so

2043
01:27:15,830 --> 01:27:13,280
with debbie i wasn't really knowing what

2044
01:27:18,149 --> 01:27:15,840
i was uh expecting and when we started

2045
01:27:20,390 --> 01:27:18,159
off we had originally if i can remember

2046
01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:20,400
right we're just planning on having

2047
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:22,719
linda and debbie in an interaction with

2048
01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:24,320
each other and as i kind of listened to

2049
01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:26,560
the story more i just had this instinct

2050
01:27:30,629 --> 01:27:28,800
to really kind of draw that out more and

2051
01:27:32,470 --> 01:27:30,639
wanted to do an interview with debbie

2052
01:27:35,189 --> 01:27:32,480
independently and she actually ended up

2053
01:27:37,990 --> 01:27:35,199
being the very last interview of the

2054
01:27:41,110 --> 01:27:38,000
entire shoot in the the the close there

2055
01:27:43,990 --> 01:27:41,120
in la and i wasn't expecting for you

2056
01:27:46,550 --> 01:27:44,000
know what it to be uh what it was to be

2057
01:27:49,750 --> 01:27:46,560
in that space and it was incredibly

2058
01:27:50,790 --> 01:27:49,760
emotive it was um incredibly shocking

2059
01:27:52,709 --> 01:27:50,800
intense

2060
01:27:55,350 --> 01:27:52,719
um you know walking through her these

2061
01:27:58,709 --> 01:27:55,360
experiences and cat and and seeing her

2062
01:28:01,110 --> 01:27:58,719
being so raw and uh and available to to

2063
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:01,120
talk about these things openly but then

2064
01:28:07,270 --> 01:28:04,560
also to see uh you know a woman that has

2065
01:28:09,590 --> 01:28:07,280
dealt with these really extreme

2066
01:28:11,110 --> 01:28:09,600
experiences that would drive most people

2067
01:28:13,110 --> 01:28:11,120
crazy and they do drive most people

2068
01:28:15,270 --> 01:28:13,120
crazy in a lot of different ways the way

2069
01:28:17,030 --> 01:28:15,280
that she was able to you know use that

2070
01:28:19,510 --> 01:28:17,040
in her own catharsis like i said the

2071
01:28:21,110 --> 01:28:19,520
ability to see the darkness and and love

2072
01:28:22,390 --> 01:28:21,120
it you know there were pains in it there

2073
01:28:23,830 --> 01:28:22,400
were hardships for her in that

2074
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:23,840
experience through the abductions and

2075
01:28:27,189 --> 01:28:25,280
some of the things that actually you

2076
01:28:28,709 --> 01:28:27,199
know she experienced in that there but

2077
01:28:30,229 --> 01:28:28,719
in the end

2078
01:28:32,709 --> 01:28:30,239
that sovereign place that she was to

2079
01:28:34,950 --> 01:28:32,719
arrive at was that she walked that path

2080
01:28:37,990 --> 01:28:34,960
for a very specific journey for herself

2081
01:28:40,390 --> 01:28:38,000
and it is arriving now daily more and

2082
01:28:43,110 --> 01:28:40,400
more and this instinct in her and many

2083
01:28:44,149 --> 01:28:43,120
uh other abductees out there you know we

2084
01:28:45,669 --> 01:28:44,159
all feel

2085
01:28:48,709 --> 01:28:45,679
that uh there is something on the

2086
01:28:51,910 --> 01:28:48,719
horizon here and um that horizon uh

2087
01:28:54,390 --> 01:28:51,920
moment is is is is is approaching so

2088
01:28:56,629 --> 01:28:54,400
debbie was definitely that um that that

2089
01:28:59,030 --> 01:28:56,639
archetype and i just have great great

2090
01:29:01,430 --> 01:28:59,040
appreciation for story and to linda also

2091
01:29:03,350 --> 01:29:01,440
for bringing her into the the experience

2092
01:29:06,070 --> 01:29:03,360
and what was uh i think what is so

2093
01:29:08,310 --> 01:29:06,080
interesting uh for me personally but for

2094
01:29:10,390 --> 01:29:08,320
the audience is that uh debbie and i

2095
01:29:12,870 --> 01:29:10,400
went to the same high school right we

2096
01:29:16,870 --> 01:29:12,880
grew up in the same neighborhood

2097
01:29:18,870 --> 01:29:16,880
um in indianapolis and these events

2098
01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:18,880
happened a couple of blocks from my

2099
01:29:24,390 --> 01:29:21,120
first apartment right right there well

2100
01:29:26,550 --> 01:29:24,400
putting that aside this connection but

2101
01:29:28,870 --> 01:29:26,560
when the audience uh

2102
01:29:32,709 --> 01:29:28,880
listens to debbie and sees her

2103
01:29:33,910 --> 01:29:32,719
you realize she's just the person next

2104
01:29:37,030 --> 01:29:33,920
door

2105
01:29:39,830 --> 01:29:37,040
right she is every american

2106
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:39,840
and if she's got this story you need to

2107
01:29:42,709 --> 01:29:41,199
be careful

2108
01:29:45,110 --> 01:29:42,719
when you're walking down the street who

2109
01:29:46,709 --> 01:29:45,120
you're looking at because you just don't

2110
01:29:49,590 --> 01:29:46,719
know do you

2111
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:49,600
right and that's what debbie represents

2112
01:29:53,669 --> 01:29:51,600
and she does and she represents the

2113
01:29:55,590 --> 01:29:53,679
world out there of people that are

2114
01:29:57,189 --> 01:29:55,600
holding back that don't want to talk

2115
01:29:59,189 --> 01:29:57,199
about this stuff haven't want to talk

2116
01:30:00,629 --> 01:29:59,199
about it maybe it's too scary maybe it

2117
01:30:02,149 --> 01:30:00,639
was too traumatizing maybe they're

2118
01:30:03,990 --> 01:30:02,159
embarrassed by it

2119
01:30:05,669 --> 01:30:04,000
maybe they're completely terrified by it

2120
01:30:07,590 --> 01:30:05,679
maybe they don't understand it all of

2121
01:30:10,310 --> 01:30:07,600
those things but there are millions of

2122
01:30:12,390 --> 01:30:10,320
people in this world for decades that

2123
01:30:14,390 --> 01:30:12,400
have been recording these things talking

2124
01:30:16,390 --> 01:30:14,400
about them they've been a part of our

2125
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:16,400
culture through generations and

2126
01:30:21,430 --> 01:30:19,280
generations of you know uh

2127
01:30:23,669 --> 01:30:21,440
oral folklore that's been passed down

2128
01:30:25,669 --> 01:30:23,679
you know uh hieroglyphics all of these

2129
01:30:28,149 --> 01:30:25,679
things this is part of our collective

2130
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:28,159
subconscious in that space all of us

2131
01:30:29,830 --> 01:30:29,040
there

2132
01:30:32,709 --> 01:30:29,840
but

2133
01:30:35,750 --> 01:30:32,719
right now in this experience uh you know

2134
01:30:38,950 --> 01:30:35,760
since the 30s and 40s when the ufo you

2135
01:30:41,430 --> 01:30:38,960
know that word ufo kind of manifested

2136
01:30:42,709 --> 01:30:41,440
into form and became this you know kind

2137
01:30:45,910 --> 01:30:42,719
of uh

2138
01:30:48,709 --> 01:30:45,920
deified uh perspective of the shape and

2139
01:30:50,709 --> 01:30:48,719
this idea of you know these other life

2140
01:30:51,990 --> 01:30:50,719
forms out there that could be far beyond

2141
01:30:54,709 --> 01:30:52,000
advanced you know spiritually

2142
01:30:56,550 --> 01:30:54,719
technologically those messages and the

2143
01:30:58,550 --> 01:30:56,560
things that have been coming through

2144
01:31:01,270 --> 01:30:58,560
since the 30s and 40s and you know all

2145
01:31:02,470 --> 01:31:01,280
the way up to now there are mass amounts

2146
01:31:04,870 --> 01:31:02,480
of of

2147
01:31:08,070 --> 01:31:04,880
of abductees and people that have

2148
01:31:10,310 --> 01:31:08,080
experiences experiencers that don't talk

2149
01:31:13,189 --> 01:31:10,320
about it publicly and so the opportunity

2150
01:31:16,470 --> 01:31:13,199
again for the observers film here is is

2151
01:31:18,790 --> 01:31:16,480
to give people a movement you know

2152
01:31:21,030 --> 01:31:18,800
around the idea of disclosing these

2153
01:31:23,030 --> 01:31:21,040
things from a grassroots perspective but

2154
01:31:24,870 --> 01:31:23,040
also the idea of like just i'm an

2155
01:31:27,030 --> 01:31:24,880
observer you don't have to judge me you

2156
01:31:29,110 --> 01:31:27,040
don't have to tell me if my story's true

2157
01:31:30,870 --> 01:31:29,120
maybe i'm a drunk maybe i've got a bad

2158
01:31:32,709 --> 01:31:30,880
history doesn't matter it's the fact

2159
01:31:34,470 --> 01:31:32,719
that people can share these things

2160
01:31:36,629 --> 01:31:34,480
collectively and let that burden out

2161
01:31:38,629 --> 01:31:36,639
finally and it doesn't have to be you

2162
01:31:40,790 --> 01:31:38,639
know judged upon it can just be witness

2163
01:31:42,629 --> 01:31:40,800
it can be a collective knowledge base of

2164
01:31:44,950 --> 01:31:42,639
understanding these anomalous things

2165
01:31:46,790 --> 01:31:44,960
together because the the reason these

2166
01:31:48,950 --> 01:31:46,800
things are so complex and the reason why

2167
01:31:51,510 --> 01:31:48,960
they've been hidden for so long is the

2168
01:31:53,110 --> 01:31:51,520
schizophrenia of compartmentalization

2169
01:31:55,110 --> 01:31:53,120
that we have in this society that

2170
01:31:57,590 --> 01:31:55,120
mirrors the same schizophrenia in the

2171
01:31:59,270 --> 01:31:57,600
mind of compartmentalizing these scary

2172
01:32:00,950 --> 01:31:59,280
topics away from ourselves not wanting

2173
01:32:02,870 --> 01:32:00,960
to talk about them not wanting to

2174
01:32:05,590 --> 01:32:02,880
address them let's take our break right

2175
01:32:07,590 --> 01:32:05,600
here our guest tonight roger r richards

2176
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:07,600
we're talking about his new film

2177
01:32:12,310 --> 01:32:10,320
premiering november 18th

2178
01:32:14,310 --> 01:32:12,320
it is called the observers this is fade

2179
01:32:16,070 --> 01:32:14,320
to black i'm yours jimmy church more

2180
01:32:18,330 --> 01:32:16,080
with roger after this short break stay

2181
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:18,340
with us

2182
01:32:24,170 --> 01:32:31,669
[Music]

2183
01:32:35,350 --> 01:32:33,830
you're listening to jimmy church and

2184
01:32:45,110 --> 01:32:35,360
fade to black

2185
01:32:51,350 --> 01:32:48,229
way out here we listen to jimmy church

2186
01:32:53,189 --> 01:32:51,360
you're listening to fade to black

2187
01:32:55,910 --> 01:32:53,199
always on the edge of the hottest

2188
01:32:59,110 --> 01:32:55,920
alternative talk jimmy church with fade

2189
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:04,390
[Applause]

2190
01:33:10,790 --> 01:33:06,790
jimmy church radio

2191
01:33:15,750 --> 01:33:13,350
hello fader knots ray saab is here

2192
01:33:17,910 --> 01:33:15,760
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2193
01:33:20,950 --> 01:33:17,920
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interest in the paranormal ufos cryptids

2200
01:33:38,470 --> 01:33:36,159
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01:33:41,189 --> 01:33:38,480
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wonder about the food supply i do

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[Music]

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01:37:03,270 --> 01:36:58,550
you are listening to fate to black with

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hi i'm lisa vance you're listening to

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jimmy church this is revolution the

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revolution will not be televised the

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revolution is on radio

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[Music]

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01:38:01,830 --> 01:37:48,690
this

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your assuming church our guest tonight

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01:38:06,629 --> 01:38:04,159
roger r richards a little public service

2286
01:38:08,310 --> 01:38:06,639
announcement

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01:38:10,550 --> 01:38:08,320
i just read that the braves won the

2288
01:38:12,070 --> 01:38:10,560
world series i don't do sports anymore

2289
01:38:14,550 --> 01:38:12,080
but if you're out there you're listening

2290
01:38:16,229 --> 01:38:14,560
to the show and you don't know braves uh

2291
01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:16,239
just won the world series very cool

2292
01:38:20,390 --> 01:38:18,239
happened during the show tonight

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01:38:22,149 --> 01:38:20,400
um now roger

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01:38:24,950 --> 01:38:22,159
uh

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01:38:32,070 --> 01:38:24,960
here's the deal

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01:38:34,229 --> 01:38:32,080
my comments to the production team uh to

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01:38:36,310 --> 01:38:34,239
the film company to everybody involved

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01:38:39,590 --> 01:38:36,320
in this film has been

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01:38:42,229 --> 01:38:39,600
uh over the last week buckle up kids

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01:38:45,750 --> 01:38:42,239
this one is about to

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01:38:47,750 --> 01:38:45,760
go this is going to be a big one

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01:38:50,310 --> 01:38:47,760
and i'm not saying it because i'm

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01:38:52,149 --> 01:38:50,320
involved with the film i i've watched it

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01:38:54,310 --> 01:38:52,159
and i know what's going on here it's

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01:38:58,070 --> 01:38:54,320
it's an excellent film but that's not

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01:38:59,270 --> 01:38:58,080
that's not it and it's not the the the

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01:39:01,430 --> 01:38:59,280
message

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01:39:03,189 --> 01:39:01,440
there's another key component here when

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01:39:05,270 --> 01:39:03,199
i say buckle up

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01:39:08,149 --> 01:39:05,280
it's the production

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01:39:10,830 --> 01:39:08,159
it's the music it's the editing it's the

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01:39:13,990 --> 01:39:10,840
special effects it is the

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01:39:16,470 --> 01:39:14,000
cinematography it is some of the gorilla

2314
01:39:18,470 --> 01:39:16,480
camera work which i love by the way it's

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01:39:21,510 --> 01:39:18,480
uh it's done really well

2316
01:39:23,189 --> 01:39:21,520
but today the standards are really high

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01:39:25,830 --> 01:39:23,199
for production

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01:39:28,229 --> 01:39:25,840
it's it's uh something that there are a

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01:39:30,229 --> 01:39:28,239
lot of talented people out there making

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01:39:32,470 --> 01:39:30,239
really great stuff

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01:39:33,990 --> 01:39:32,480
and you have to if you're going onto the

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01:39:36,149 --> 01:39:34,000
world stage

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01:39:39,350 --> 01:39:36,159
you're now held to a higher standard the

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01:39:41,990 --> 01:39:39,360
public is expecting greatness

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01:39:43,990 --> 01:39:42,000
well you delivered here on a very

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01:39:46,629 --> 01:39:44,000
extreme deadline

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01:39:49,109 --> 01:39:46,639
how important were all of those key

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01:39:50,470 --> 01:39:49,119
elements to you roger

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01:39:52,149 --> 01:39:50,480
i mean i think they were important to

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01:39:54,550 --> 01:39:52,159
the whole team you know all of us in

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01:39:56,790 --> 01:39:54,560
this work and especially the ones that

2332
01:39:59,430 --> 01:39:56,800
have worked with me for a while you know

2333
01:40:01,510 --> 01:39:59,440
through multiple projects now um and and

2334
01:40:04,470 --> 01:40:01,520
we really have gotten into you know

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01:40:05,510 --> 01:40:04,480
honing this work together this craft uh

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01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:05,520
uh uh

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01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:07,840
you know collectively and so each one of

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01:40:11,750 --> 01:40:10,159
these people they're bringing their you

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01:40:13,270 --> 01:40:11,760
know decisions whether it was the

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01:40:15,510 --> 01:40:13,280
decision for you know the set for

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01:40:16,870 --> 01:40:15,520
example here you know adrian youngblood

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01:40:19,910 --> 01:40:16,880
one of the producers there you know

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01:40:21,910 --> 01:40:19,920
scoured along with uh you know uh a

2344
01:40:23,830 --> 01:40:21,920
bella her you know support and assistant

2345
01:40:25,750 --> 01:40:23,840
there finding that space and and

2346
01:40:27,109 --> 01:40:25,760
creating that space there for the the

2347
01:40:29,189 --> 01:40:27,119
you know they held the look and the feel

2348
01:40:31,510 --> 01:40:29,199
for a lot of the the film throughout

2349
01:40:32,950 --> 01:40:31,520
that the cinematography and the

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01:40:34,709 --> 01:40:32,960
ability to kind of you know have a

2351
01:40:36,550 --> 01:40:34,719
dirtier look where you're roaming with a

2352
01:40:37,830 --> 01:40:36,560
camera behind the scenes you get to see

2353
01:40:39,910 --> 01:40:37,840
a little bit that's happening in the

2354
01:40:41,830 --> 01:40:39,920
shadows in addition to the the

2355
01:40:44,950 --> 01:40:41,840
production that's going on you know

2356
01:40:47,109 --> 01:40:44,960
these elements and um things that we all

2357
01:40:49,910 --> 01:40:47,119
collectively as creatives you know

2358
01:40:51,669 --> 01:40:49,920
poured into this um you know work it's

2359
01:40:53,350 --> 01:40:51,679
it's it's the refinements of each one of

2360
01:40:55,910 --> 01:40:53,360
these individuals and their aesthetics

2361
01:40:58,390 --> 01:40:55,920
and as the director you know you serve

2362
01:41:00,310 --> 01:40:58,400
kind of as the same you know role of uh

2363
01:41:02,390 --> 01:41:00,320
you know the songwriter in that that

2364
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:02,400
place it's like you're looking for you

2365
01:41:05,430 --> 01:41:04,000
know the rifts you're looking for what

2366
01:41:07,109 --> 01:41:05,440
people are collaborating with and

2367
01:41:08,870 --> 01:41:07,119
contributing on the things that make

2368
01:41:11,189 --> 01:41:08,880
them like you know that they're inspired

2369
01:41:13,910 --> 01:41:11,199
that they they love in those experiences

2370
01:41:16,229 --> 01:41:13,920
and then you try to uh you know create

2371
01:41:18,390 --> 01:41:16,239
something as a maestro in in all of that

2372
01:41:20,390 --> 01:41:18,400
and be able to you know conduct that

2373
01:41:22,390 --> 01:41:20,400
experience uh you know it's a great

2374
01:41:24,629 --> 01:41:22,400
honor to be at the helm of that type of

2375
01:41:27,590 --> 01:41:24,639
experience and and it's a burden too

2376
01:41:29,830 --> 01:41:27,600
from the standpoint of a joyful burden

2377
01:41:31,350 --> 01:41:29,840
where the responsibility of carrying

2378
01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:31,360
something like that as a filmmaker

2379
01:41:35,350 --> 01:41:33,440
through but also carrying everyone's

2380
01:41:37,590 --> 01:41:35,360
work and collaborations and intentions

2381
01:41:39,830 --> 01:41:37,600
and ideas and feelings and interest in

2382
01:41:41,590 --> 01:41:39,840
all of that um you know it's a heavy

2383
01:41:43,750 --> 01:41:41,600
it's a heavy role to take on in those

2384
01:41:44,870 --> 01:41:43,760
spaces but that's a part of the pressure

2385
01:41:46,870 --> 01:41:44,880
that you know you were talking about

2386
01:41:48,629 --> 01:41:46,880
before that kind of creates this diamond

2387
01:41:50,629 --> 01:41:48,639
it's it's everybody contributing to

2388
01:41:52,629 --> 01:41:50,639
their best and so the observers

2389
01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:52,639
represents that now you know we're in a

2390
01:41:58,470 --> 01:41:55,600
world now with these streaming wars and

2391
01:42:01,590 --> 01:41:58,480
the ability to you know self-distribute

2392
01:42:03,990 --> 01:42:01,600
your work here and do affordable

2393
01:42:06,310 --> 01:42:04,000
you know pieces of quality film making

2394
01:42:07,990 --> 01:42:06,320
as an independent artist that are up

2395
01:42:10,229 --> 01:42:08,000
there being released on the same

2396
01:42:11,910 --> 01:42:10,239
platforms the tvods and the s-pods that

2397
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:11,920
all of the hollywood ones are doing and

2398
01:42:16,229 --> 01:42:14,080
that is a very unique experience that

2399
01:42:18,310 --> 01:42:16,239
has not been available you know before

2400
01:42:21,430 --> 01:42:18,320
necessarily in the the the way that it

2401
01:42:23,109 --> 01:42:21,440
is now to to film lakers and as we see

2402
01:42:25,109 --> 01:42:23,119
the dissolving of you know these

2403
01:42:26,950 --> 01:42:25,119
government structures and old paradigms

2404
01:42:28,709 --> 01:42:26,960
out there you know religious paradigms

2405
01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:28,719
and institutions on that way we're also

2406
01:42:33,270 --> 01:42:31,199
seeing the dissolving of what has been

2407
01:42:36,149 --> 01:42:33,280
the gatekeepers of the artists you know

2408
01:42:38,390 --> 01:42:36,159
the film studios and the record labels

2409
01:42:39,990 --> 01:42:38,400
these um this this new generation this

2410
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:40,000
transformation into the world that's

2411
01:42:44,709 --> 01:42:42,480
marching towards decentralization and

2412
01:42:46,950 --> 01:42:44,719
you know cryptocurrencies and blockchain

2413
01:42:49,430 --> 01:42:46,960
understandings of you know what it means

2414
01:42:52,070 --> 01:42:49,440
to protect your work and contribute to a

2415
01:42:54,229 --> 01:42:52,080
pool but also you know understanding

2416
01:42:56,709 --> 01:42:54,239
intellectual property in a different way

2417
01:42:58,870 --> 01:42:56,719
too and really looking at the collective

2418
01:43:01,270 --> 01:42:58,880
knowledge base of everyone building over

2419
01:43:03,430 --> 01:43:01,280
generations these ideas and

2420
01:43:05,189 --> 01:43:03,440
all of these things that's all being

2421
01:43:07,109 --> 01:43:05,199
opened up now for the creatives of this

2422
01:43:08,790 --> 01:43:07,119
world and you know one of the biggest

2423
01:43:10,629 --> 01:43:08,800
messages that i always have for

2424
01:43:13,189 --> 01:43:10,639
creatives is

2425
01:43:15,750 --> 01:43:13,199
you guys are the most powerful people in

2426
01:43:17,350 --> 01:43:15,760
this world in regards to the ability to

2427
01:43:19,910 --> 01:43:17,360
change and influence collective

2428
01:43:22,149 --> 01:43:19,920
consciousness that is at the core of the

2429
01:43:24,229 --> 01:43:22,159
ability to change this reality

2430
01:43:26,310 --> 01:43:24,239
literally change this reality around you

2431
01:43:27,910 --> 01:43:26,320
it's why you've been targeted it's why

2432
01:43:30,149 --> 01:43:27,920
your work has been targeted it's why

2433
01:43:32,149 --> 01:43:30,159
it's been abused it's why it's been you

2434
01:43:34,470 --> 01:43:32,159
know put out for market to the highest

2435
01:43:35,990 --> 01:43:34,480
bidder and you received the least

2436
01:43:38,310 --> 01:43:36,000
portion of that

2437
01:43:40,790 --> 01:43:38,320
they have enslaved you in those places

2438
01:43:43,510 --> 01:43:40,800
and that that paradigm that kingdom that

2439
01:43:46,390 --> 01:43:43,520
was hollywood is kind of crumbling away

2440
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:46,400
and revealing a new structure in the

2441
01:43:51,990 --> 01:43:49,199
world of creative artists and it is your

2442
01:43:54,470 --> 01:43:52,000
time now you guys to step into this role

2443
01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:54,480
and start creating there are all the

2444
01:43:58,950 --> 01:43:56,639
tools at your fingertips now affordable

2445
01:44:01,910 --> 01:43:58,960
no one has any excuses anymore you don't

2446
01:44:04,550 --> 01:44:01,920
need a studio to do a film you don't

2447
01:44:05,510 --> 01:44:04,560
need uh you know artist representation

2448
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:05,520
and

2449
01:44:10,149 --> 01:44:07,600
you know record uh companies to to

2450
01:44:11,990 --> 01:44:10,159
produce and publish an album

2451
01:44:13,669 --> 01:44:12,000
get into the work find the

2452
01:44:15,350 --> 01:44:13,679
catharsis yourself and what you're

2453
01:44:18,229 --> 01:44:15,360
feeling now and what you're experiencing

2454
01:44:21,350 --> 01:44:18,239
now channel into the work and um you

2455
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:21,360
know be absolutely vicious in your

2456
01:44:27,270 --> 01:44:25,440
ability to hold on to your visions and

2457
01:44:30,149 --> 01:44:27,280
channel them through and bring them

2458
01:44:31,510 --> 01:44:30,159
through into these final objects here

2459
01:44:33,830 --> 01:44:31,520
these things will have some of the

2460
01:44:36,950 --> 01:44:33,840
strongest effects on this world you know

2461
01:44:39,830 --> 01:44:36,960
um that that are even possible in in the

2462
01:44:42,310 --> 01:44:39,840
ability of an individual's contribution

2463
01:44:44,629 --> 01:44:42,320
they they ripple out they they cascade

2464
01:44:47,430 --> 01:44:44,639
out and they have this exponential

2465
01:44:49,350 --> 01:44:47,440
effect if they're done from the heart

2466
01:44:51,669 --> 01:44:49,360
and and really channel somebody's

2467
01:44:53,830 --> 01:44:51,679
catharsis those those are living objects

2468
01:44:56,149 --> 01:44:53,840
in that again that that shamanic object

2469
01:44:57,990 --> 01:44:56,159
world so that's kind of how i see that

2470
01:44:59,990 --> 01:44:58,000
perspective around the artist and the

2471
01:45:01,910 --> 01:45:00,000
the the observers and the talents that

2472
01:45:04,470 --> 01:45:01,920
came in to make that such a high quality

2473
01:45:06,310 --> 01:45:04,480
beautiful product but also just a

2474
01:45:08,550 --> 01:45:06,320
beautiful you know piece of work in

2475
01:45:10,790 --> 01:45:08,560
itself it's it's everybody's uh taste

2476
01:45:12,629 --> 01:45:10,800
and aesthetics being folded into it well

2477
01:45:14,550 --> 01:45:12,639
and and take me through some of the

2478
01:45:18,229 --> 01:45:14,560
talent uh

2479
01:45:19,430 --> 01:45:18,239
if we can uh briefly like editing

2480
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:19,440
are you

2481
01:45:27,910 --> 01:45:24,400
standing over your editor

2482
01:45:29,189 --> 01:45:27,920
um every single cut and you're

2483
01:45:32,709 --> 01:45:29,199
commenting

2484
01:45:35,270 --> 01:45:32,719
or are you giving a certain artistic

2485
01:45:36,229 --> 01:45:35,280
license to that process and letting your

2486
01:45:38,070 --> 01:45:36,239
editor

2487
01:45:41,350 --> 01:45:38,080
uh help you out

2488
01:45:43,590 --> 01:45:41,360
the story arc is extremely something

2489
01:45:45,910 --> 01:45:43,600
that i protect and covet in regards to

2490
01:45:47,510 --> 01:45:45,920
my own responsibility for playing out i

2491
01:45:49,430 --> 01:45:47,520
always work with different people's

2492
01:45:51,350 --> 01:45:49,440
opinions from talents to editors or

2493
01:45:53,510 --> 01:45:51,360
otherwise you know based off of the

2494
01:45:55,990 --> 01:45:53,520
story arc but ultimately that's that's

2495
01:45:58,310 --> 01:45:56,000
my place to kind of figure out and you

2496
01:46:00,310 --> 01:45:58,320
know and and get into and so my process

2497
01:46:02,790 --> 01:46:00,320
here with the observers you know there's

2498
01:46:04,070 --> 01:46:02,800
a there's a great keanu reeves film i'm

2499
01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:04,080
trying to remember the name of it where

2500
01:46:11,030 --> 01:46:08,320
he plays a priest that uh um that's uh

2501
01:46:13,030 --> 01:46:11,040
uh god constantine yeah

2502
01:46:15,030 --> 01:46:13,040
yeah there's this there's this heavyset

2503
01:46:16,870 --> 01:46:15,040
priest that's kind of uh

2504
01:46:19,990 --> 01:46:16,880
somewhat of an oracle and he goes back

2505
01:46:21,590 --> 01:46:20,000
into his uh you know office and he kind

2506
01:46:23,669 --> 01:46:21,600
of rolls his eyes back in his head and

2507
01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:23,679
starts fishing around through piles of

2508
01:46:28,070 --> 01:46:26,080
newspapers that is exactly what it was

2509
01:46:30,390 --> 01:46:28,080
like for me fishing around the media

2510
01:46:32,070 --> 01:46:30,400
bins of the observers just in this

2511
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:32,080
intuitive like

2512
01:46:36,629 --> 01:46:34,320
you know just days of like what am i

2513
01:46:38,870 --> 01:46:36,639
doing i have such little time oh my gosh

2514
01:46:40,709 --> 01:46:38,880
and so taking that experience on

2515
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:40,719
and doing the first edit myself in

2516
01:46:43,830 --> 01:46:42,480
regards to the narrative cut i went

2517
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:43,840
through and i pulled that whole

2518
01:46:47,910 --> 01:46:45,840
experience and i edited it you know from

2519
01:46:50,070 --> 01:46:47,920
that standpoint of really kind of

2520
01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:50,080
getting down what needed to be there and

2521
01:46:54,550 --> 01:46:52,320
then from that standpoint i used that as

2522
01:46:56,470 --> 01:46:54,560
the base foundation to turn over to um

2523
01:46:58,390 --> 01:46:56,480
the the additional editors that are

2524
01:47:01,430 --> 01:46:58,400
working with me in that experience you

2525
01:47:03,990 --> 01:47:01,440
know doing the title sequences uh and

2526
01:47:05,430 --> 01:47:04,000
you know doing the the the b-rolls and

2527
01:47:07,109 --> 01:47:05,440
all of the kind of different after

2528
01:47:09,030 --> 01:47:07,119
effects stuff like that so it's a

2529
01:47:10,790 --> 01:47:09,040
collaborative work of all of us kind of

2530
01:47:13,030 --> 01:47:10,800
putting together these final pieces in

2531
01:47:14,310 --> 01:47:13,040
regards to the post-production um and

2532
01:47:16,870 --> 01:47:14,320
it's really kind of everybody

2533
01:47:19,030 --> 01:47:16,880
contributing and me there massaging and

2534
01:47:21,270 --> 01:47:19,040
giving direction listening to instincts

2535
01:47:23,510 --> 01:47:21,280
of people and ideas making hard

2536
01:47:25,510 --> 01:47:23,520
decisions for time money all of those

2537
01:47:27,669 --> 01:47:25,520
types of things as a director but the

2538
01:47:29,750 --> 01:47:27,679
narrative arc um i i

2539
01:47:31,830 --> 01:47:29,760
that's a very private process for me

2540
01:47:34,149 --> 01:47:31,840
that i really get into and finding and

2541
01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:34,159
it's incredibly intuitive so i just kind

2542
01:47:38,390 --> 01:47:35,760
of do that in my own reality and on

2543
01:47:39,910 --> 01:47:38,400
bubble now uh there's a fifth beatle

2544
01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:39,920
here

2545
01:47:43,590 --> 01:47:41,440
it's the music

2546
01:47:46,390 --> 01:47:43,600
yes how did you pull that off

2547
01:47:49,669 --> 01:47:46,400
so i have been working with uh renee

2548
01:47:51,350 --> 01:47:49,679
armenta for many films uh you know

2549
01:47:53,910 --> 01:47:51,360
in this experience since the very

2550
01:47:56,950 --> 01:47:53,920
beginning honestly of of my first film

2551
01:48:00,390 --> 01:47:56,960
here and he is an incredible artist uh

2552
01:48:03,590 --> 01:48:00,400
in general uh in all different formats

2553
01:48:05,510 --> 01:48:03,600
um and expressions in himself but he's

2554
01:48:08,149 --> 01:48:05,520
incredibly talented in the music world

2555
01:48:10,470 --> 01:48:08,159
and so you know we work very intuitively

2556
01:48:11,990 --> 01:48:10,480
too where uh you know we kind of give

2557
01:48:13,750 --> 01:48:12,000
each other sections or give each other

2558
01:48:15,750 --> 01:48:13,760
ideas for different themes and moves

2559
01:48:18,709 --> 01:48:15,760
that we were looking for and renee

2560
01:48:21,189 --> 01:48:18,719
scored with that and then also kirsten

2561
01:48:22,709 --> 01:48:21,199
who was the sound designer and also uh

2562
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:22,719
organized a lot of the score that was

2563
01:48:27,430 --> 01:48:24,320
working side by side with her partner

2564
01:48:29,350 --> 01:48:27,440
chris in uh the editing and then also

2565
01:48:31,590 --> 01:48:29,360
with adam who was you know handling a

2566
01:48:34,229 --> 01:48:31,600
lot of the vfx and things like that you

2567
01:48:36,629 --> 01:48:34,239
know kirsten was pulling in sound design

2568
01:48:39,189 --> 01:48:36,639
for that also so again this is a place

2569
01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:39,199
where you know i give ideas i meet with

2570
01:48:42,950 --> 01:48:40,800
these people i give them the concepts

2571
01:48:45,270 --> 01:48:42,960
that i see visually that are there i get

2572
01:48:47,590 --> 01:48:45,280
their ideas and their feedback on that

2573
01:48:50,070 --> 01:48:47,600
and we mold collectively the dialogue

2574
01:48:52,470 --> 01:48:50,080
together until it gets a resonance

2575
01:48:54,070 --> 01:48:52,480
that's kind of hewn round and it feels

2576
01:48:56,149 --> 01:48:54,080
good for everybody and we're holding the

2577
01:48:57,830 --> 01:48:56,159
sphere of like yep this is what we want

2578
01:48:59,109 --> 01:48:57,840
to do and this is you know where we take

2579
01:49:00,950 --> 01:48:59,119
it forward and then they go and they

2580
01:49:02,390 --> 01:49:00,960
create and they contribute and we dial

2581
01:49:03,109 --> 01:49:02,400
in little bits more a little bit more

2582
01:49:05,270 --> 01:49:03,119
but

2583
01:49:07,910 --> 01:49:05,280
kirsten and renee uh did an incredible

2584
01:49:11,510 --> 01:49:07,920
job as far as intuiting the sound design

2585
01:49:13,910 --> 01:49:11,520
and score for the film too now uh

2586
01:49:16,149 --> 01:49:13,920
another interesting and the uh the

2587
01:49:17,750 --> 01:49:16,159
audience needs to hear this

2588
01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:17,760
um

2589
01:49:23,350 --> 01:49:21,440
i think everybody on the crew in

2590
01:49:26,390 --> 01:49:23,360
production

2591
01:49:27,910 --> 01:49:26,400
is an experiencer

2592
01:49:30,550 --> 01:49:27,920
or

2593
01:49:33,270 --> 01:49:30,560
has witnessed things

2594
01:49:35,510 --> 01:49:33,280
and is very woke i should you know i

2595
01:49:38,149 --> 01:49:35,520
hate to use that word

2596
01:49:41,109 --> 01:49:38,159
but they are part of this community

2597
01:49:43,350 --> 01:49:41,119
so this is a labor of love for them too

2598
01:49:44,950 --> 01:49:43,360
as well where they were coming up to me

2599
01:49:46,149 --> 01:49:44,960
and everybody else on the set you know

2600
01:49:47,750 --> 01:49:46,159
the cast

2601
01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:47,760
with questions

2602
01:49:52,550 --> 01:49:49,760
and they wanted you know they were

2603
01:49:53,990 --> 01:49:52,560
involved in the project and that's

2604
01:49:56,229 --> 01:49:54,000
that's very interesting here i don't

2605
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:56,239
think we have an outsider that is

2606
01:50:01,589 --> 01:49:59,119
involved in this project do we we do not

2607
01:50:03,270 --> 01:50:01,599
and that's part of this team that's uh

2608
01:50:05,430 --> 01:50:03,280
around me in my work and what we've

2609
01:50:07,750 --> 01:50:05,440
created collectively you know we were

2610
01:50:10,229 --> 01:50:07,760
all pulled together because

2611
01:50:11,830 --> 01:50:10,239
you know we have had things that have

2612
01:50:15,350 --> 01:50:11,840
led us on these paths of trying to

2613
01:50:17,669 --> 01:50:15,360
understand uh these experiences that are

2614
01:50:20,709 --> 01:50:17,679
you know anomalous and the perspective

2615
01:50:22,709 --> 01:50:20,719
of the norm that everybody accepts as uh

2616
01:50:25,270 --> 01:50:22,719
you know kind of our reality in whatever

2617
01:50:27,430 --> 01:50:25,280
form that is you know culturally and and

2618
01:50:30,550 --> 01:50:27,440
and what not for different locations but

2619
01:50:32,310 --> 01:50:30,560
the idea you know for us is uh this is

2620
01:50:34,390 --> 01:50:32,320
that catharsis again it's the work we

2621
01:50:36,390 --> 01:50:34,400
were on the path as activists we were on

2622
01:50:38,070 --> 01:50:36,400
the path to do something about this and

2623
01:50:40,310 --> 01:50:38,080
we found work together we found

2624
01:50:41,990 --> 01:50:40,320
catharsis together and we've all had

2625
01:50:43,430 --> 01:50:42,000
different pieces to each other's puzzles

2626
01:50:46,550 --> 01:50:43,440
to be perfectly honest in this

2627
01:50:49,669 --> 01:50:46,560
experience and our story as a collective

2628
01:50:52,149 --> 01:50:49,679
is continually unfolding here and also

2629
01:50:54,149 --> 01:50:52,159
folding more people into it and and more

2630
01:50:56,470 --> 01:50:54,159
people are finding this experience and

2631
01:50:58,390 --> 01:50:56,480
wanting to create with us and you know

2632
01:51:00,790 --> 01:50:58,400
and really understanding the unique

2633
01:51:03,350 --> 01:51:00,800
place that we hold as a collective you

2634
01:51:05,990 --> 01:51:03,360
know that place of of kind of being a

2635
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:06,000
gray walker from the standpoint of just

2636
01:51:10,629 --> 01:51:08,080
holding space for conversation we're not

2637
01:51:12,709 --> 01:51:10,639
there to necessarily pick apart people's

2638
01:51:15,430 --> 01:51:12,719
experiences here right we're not there

2639
01:51:17,510 --> 01:51:15,440
to necessarily even give our opinions

2640
01:51:19,830 --> 01:51:17,520
from that standpoint we're there to hold

2641
01:51:21,750 --> 01:51:19,840
space for a conversation and weave a

2642
01:51:23,589 --> 01:51:21,760
mosaic and tapestry from that through a

2643
01:51:25,990 --> 01:51:23,599
piece of art that helps us and our

2644
01:51:28,229 --> 01:51:26,000
catharsis understand our story and so i

2645
01:51:29,910 --> 01:51:28,239
think that experience was was a big part

2646
01:51:34,390 --> 01:51:29,920
of all this for everybody without a

2647
01:51:37,270 --> 01:51:34,400
doubt what i really enjoyed uh as uh and

2648
01:51:39,350 --> 01:51:37,280
specifically uh this is stuff that

2649
01:51:42,149 --> 01:51:39,360
everybody will see later but we did a

2650
01:51:43,189 --> 01:51:42,159
round table in in a in this living room

2651
01:51:45,750 --> 01:51:43,199
setting

2652
01:51:47,109 --> 01:51:45,760
and which we shot for hours

2653
01:51:49,910 --> 01:51:47,119
but um

2654
01:51:51,109 --> 01:51:49,920
to hear when you say you know cut let's

2655
01:51:53,430 --> 01:51:51,119
take a break

2656
01:51:55,830 --> 01:51:53,440
and and we hit that moment and to have

2657
01:51:57,669 --> 01:51:55,840
sound or lights or a

2658
01:51:59,589 --> 01:51:57,679
cameraman

2659
01:52:01,910 --> 01:51:59,599
right yeah

2660
01:52:04,390 --> 01:52:01,920
and because they are a part of the

2661
01:52:06,870 --> 01:52:04,400
conversation they are listening to what

2662
01:52:08,149 --> 01:52:06,880
is going on and to hear that coming back

2663
01:52:10,870 --> 01:52:08,159
from the crew

2664
01:52:14,070 --> 01:52:10,880
right this isn't a stuntman scene with a

2665
01:52:16,709 --> 01:52:14,080
car crash right where you get a woo

2666
01:52:19,030 --> 01:52:16,719
this is conversation that is happening

2667
01:52:21,430 --> 01:52:19,040
when you get the screams of of

2668
01:52:23,350 --> 01:52:21,440
appreciation and you picked up on that

2669
01:52:24,310 --> 01:52:23,360
too didn't you everybody was in the

2670
01:52:26,470 --> 01:52:24,320
moment

2671
01:52:28,229 --> 01:52:26,480
yeah most definitely and i think you

2672
01:52:29,990 --> 01:52:28,239
know with that conversation in

2673
01:52:32,390 --> 01:52:30,000
particular and you know for the people

2674
01:52:34,790 --> 01:52:32,400
that are listening right now uh you know

2675
01:52:36,790 --> 01:52:34,800
this round table that happened was you

2676
01:52:39,669 --> 01:52:36,800
know everybody in the cast essentially a

2677
01:52:41,830 --> 01:52:39,679
majority of people here uh you know

2678
01:52:44,070 --> 01:52:41,840
were able to kind of get together and

2679
01:52:45,589 --> 01:52:44,080
share a very candid conversation and

2680
01:52:47,750 --> 01:52:45,599
this was kind of the brainchild in the

2681
01:52:49,589 --> 01:52:47,760
moment of you know leon kennedy you know

2682
01:52:50,950 --> 01:52:49,599
you guys kind of went out to dinner and

2683
01:52:53,510 --> 01:52:50,960
you know had a big conversation

2684
01:52:56,310 --> 01:52:53,520
beforehand and what he saw there was the

2685
01:52:58,790 --> 01:52:56,320
incredible conversation created by some

2686
01:53:00,709 --> 01:52:58,800
very old friends that have been a

2687
01:53:03,270 --> 01:53:00,719
long-term you know a part of this

2688
01:53:04,950 --> 01:53:03,280
community and and it has been a labor of

2689
01:53:08,070 --> 01:53:04,960
love and a labor of suffering in that

2690
01:53:10,149 --> 01:53:08,080
experience and and he was fascinated by

2691
01:53:11,990 --> 01:53:10,159
the conversation at dinner that night

2692
01:53:13,990 --> 01:53:12,000
and then approached me and and the rest

2693
01:53:15,990 --> 01:53:14,000
of the crew and and wanted to look at

2694
01:53:18,390 --> 01:53:16,000
this idea of the the the round table

2695
01:53:20,390 --> 01:53:18,400
kind of capturing that same uh that

2696
01:53:22,310 --> 01:53:20,400
feeling that was there and so leon

2697
01:53:23,910 --> 01:53:22,320
really kind of uh you know was the

2698
01:53:25,910 --> 01:53:23,920
brainchild that brought that in and it

2699
01:53:27,830 --> 01:53:25,920
was it was amazing to watch you guys and

2700
01:53:29,270 --> 01:53:27,840
i cannot wait for the public to see

2701
01:53:31,350 --> 01:53:29,280
those things and these things will be

2702
01:53:33,589 --> 01:53:31,360
released free you know trickled out over

2703
01:53:35,189 --> 01:53:33,599
the rest of the launch campaign here out

2704
01:53:37,669 --> 01:53:35,199
to the public you guys will all be able

2705
01:53:39,589 --> 01:53:37,679
to see it and the synchronicities and

2706
01:53:41,830 --> 01:53:39,599
the unique kind of connections that

2707
01:53:44,070 --> 01:53:41,840
happened between these incredible

2708
01:53:46,310 --> 01:53:44,080
friends colleagues you know at some

2709
01:53:49,270 --> 01:53:46,320
places you know greatly disagreeing with

2710
01:53:51,830 --> 01:53:49,280
each other but then also you know uh you

2711
01:53:55,589 --> 01:53:51,840
know being able to share a conversation

2712
01:53:57,589 --> 01:53:55,599
with with respect around the fact again

2713
01:53:59,109 --> 01:53:57,599
that no one has the hundred percent

2714
01:54:00,950 --> 01:53:59,119
truth no one was coming from that

2715
01:54:02,470 --> 01:54:00,960
standpoint of you know this is my

2716
01:54:04,390 --> 01:54:02,480
reality and just because you believe

2717
01:54:07,189 --> 01:54:04,400
something different you know uh you're

2718
01:54:09,750 --> 01:54:07,199
wrong it was it was really shown in that

2719
01:54:12,229 --> 01:54:09,760
round table in that conversation um the

2720
01:54:13,589 --> 01:54:12,239
unique ability you guys have to to roll

2721
01:54:15,830 --> 01:54:13,599
with each other and experience this

2722
01:54:17,510 --> 01:54:15,840
stuff and be in your own you know

2723
01:54:19,109 --> 01:54:17,520
interpretations of that while also

2724
01:54:20,390 --> 01:54:19,119
honoring each other so i can't wait for

2725
01:54:23,589 --> 01:54:20,400
that round table to make it out and

2726
01:54:25,109 --> 01:54:23,599
kudos to um you know leon kennedy for

2727
01:54:28,149 --> 01:54:25,119
you know pulling that together and then

2728
01:54:30,070 --> 01:54:28,159
also you know maureen lavette for your

2729
01:54:32,149 --> 01:54:30,080
hairstyle and beautiful makeup that's in

2730
01:54:34,830 --> 01:54:32,159
there man i can't wait to reveal that

2731
01:54:40,790 --> 01:54:38,070
man well you got to give people uh uh

2732
01:54:44,149 --> 01:54:40,800
something to talk about i guess but um

2733
01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:44,159
yeah yeah yeah well i did it and it's on

2734
01:54:48,470 --> 01:54:45,199
film

2735
01:54:49,669 --> 01:54:48,480
there's no taking that back um uh

2736
01:54:51,430 --> 01:54:49,679
but uh

2737
01:54:52,470 --> 01:54:51,440
there i wanted to

2738
01:54:53,510 --> 01:54:52,480
uh

2739
01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:53,520
when you're

2740
01:54:56,950 --> 01:54:56,000
in that round table uh when we were all

2741
01:54:59,350 --> 01:54:56,960
there

2742
01:55:01,589 --> 01:54:59,360
we've got a little bit of an audience

2743
01:55:03,750 --> 01:55:01,599
right there's probably 10 people that

2744
01:55:05,189 --> 01:55:03,760
are on the crew that are there working

2745
01:55:07,990 --> 01:55:05,199
at that moment

2746
01:55:09,669 --> 01:55:08,000
but when we were at dinner

2747
01:55:13,669 --> 01:55:09,679
that's different

2748
01:55:18,070 --> 01:55:13,679
because there's nobody there but us

2749
01:55:19,910 --> 01:55:18,080
and uh and we spoke very openly but we

2750
01:55:21,990 --> 01:55:19,920
also captured that

2751
01:55:25,030 --> 01:55:22,000
on film two as well

2752
01:55:27,990 --> 01:55:25,040
i and and i was there for both um but a

2753
01:55:31,270 --> 01:55:28,000
little bit different of a dynamic

2754
01:55:33,270 --> 01:55:31,280
um in that uh

2755
01:55:36,470 --> 01:55:33,280
there's nobody there now this is just

2756
01:55:37,510 --> 01:55:36,480
open conversation that is happening over

2757
01:55:40,229 --> 01:55:37,520
dinner

2758
01:55:43,109 --> 01:55:40,239
and very much like you know what would

2759
01:55:46,070 --> 01:55:43,119
happen with say like anthony bourdain

2760
01:55:48,070 --> 01:55:46,080
you know what i mean where it is just

2761
01:55:50,790 --> 01:55:48,080
we're gonna put it literally on the

2762
01:55:51,589 --> 01:55:50,800
table and have a conversation

2763
01:55:57,510 --> 01:55:51,599
will

2764
01:55:58,870 --> 01:55:57,520
some of that rogue camera work that we

2765
01:56:01,830 --> 01:55:58,880
all shot

2766
01:56:04,870 --> 01:56:01,840
over dinner yes most definitely and i

2767
01:56:06,950 --> 01:56:04,880
think you know right now the the the

2768
01:56:09,189 --> 01:56:06,960
marketing campaign uh group that's

2769
01:56:10,790 --> 01:56:09,199
around us here um

2770
01:56:13,189 --> 01:56:10,800
to support this film and getting the

2771
01:56:15,350 --> 01:56:13,199
message around the film are elated with

2772
01:56:17,270 --> 01:56:15,360
the amount of you know uh additional

2773
01:56:19,030 --> 01:56:17,280
media that we have to share around these

2774
01:56:20,870 --> 01:56:19,040
things and invite people into this

2775
01:56:22,629 --> 01:56:20,880
bigger world like you said you know the

2776
01:56:24,470 --> 01:56:22,639
film in itself is 90 minutes and it's

2777
01:56:26,790 --> 01:56:24,480
great you can see it on all the you know

2778
01:56:28,550 --> 01:56:26,800
the the main platforms like itunes and

2779
01:56:30,790 --> 01:56:28,560
you know amazon and roku and all of

2780
01:56:32,550 --> 01:56:30,800
those things but in the the world of

2781
01:56:34,709 --> 01:56:32,560
kind of free media and the bigger

2782
01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:34,719
picture that came around that the behind

2783
01:56:38,870 --> 01:56:36,960
the scenes stuff the stuff that was just

2784
01:56:40,709 --> 01:56:38,880
like had to make the cutting room floor

2785
01:56:42,629 --> 01:56:40,719
there's so much good stuff that had to

2786
01:56:44,629 --> 01:56:42,639
hit the cutting room floor these little

2787
01:56:47,030 --> 01:56:44,639
small micro conversations and pieces of

2788
01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:47,040
micro content will all find its way out

2789
01:56:51,030 --> 01:56:48,560
into the public here too for free

2790
01:56:54,229 --> 01:56:51,040
throughout this campaign and um it's

2791
01:56:56,709 --> 01:56:54,239
it's it's it's media that people can use

2792
01:56:58,950 --> 01:56:56,719
in a direct af action effort in the

2793
01:57:01,990 --> 01:56:58,960
digital world to share you know when you

2794
01:57:03,910 --> 01:57:02,000
see these clips and and um you know you

2795
01:57:05,430 --> 01:57:03,920
feel connected to them and you want to

2796
01:57:06,629 --> 01:57:05,440
you know support this movement or you

2797
01:57:08,629 --> 01:57:06,639
feel like you want to be a part of this

2798
01:57:11,350 --> 01:57:08,639
movement the best way that you can do

2799
01:57:13,189 --> 01:57:11,360
that is is is help get that out there

2800
01:57:15,589 --> 01:57:13,199
and really kind of put that message out

2801
01:57:17,990 --> 01:57:15,599
there and share that bits of information

2802
01:57:19,830 --> 01:57:18,000
and start conversations based off of all

2803
01:57:21,669 --> 01:57:19,840
of this stuff that's the best way that

2804
01:57:23,669 --> 01:57:21,679
you can be a part and contribute here to

2805
01:57:26,310 --> 01:57:23,679
the observers and um you know the

2806
01:57:27,910 --> 01:57:26,320
observer movement in whole and so all of

2807
01:57:30,229 --> 01:57:27,920
this stuff like you're saying the little

2808
01:57:32,229 --> 01:57:30,239
tidbits you know that were captured you

2809
01:57:34,229 --> 01:57:32,239
know dinner and the round table and the

2810
01:57:36,310 --> 01:57:34,239
individual exposes that were done plus

2811
01:57:38,470 --> 01:57:36,320
all the cutting room floor it's it's

2812
01:57:39,990 --> 01:57:38,480
it's all kind of you know folding into

2813
01:57:41,830 --> 01:57:40,000
the experience of what we're sharing

2814
01:57:42,950 --> 01:57:41,840
with this uh you know celebration that

2815
01:57:46,390 --> 01:57:42,960
is the film

2816
01:57:47,750 --> 01:57:46,400
there's uh uh before we get to the break

2817
01:57:50,950 --> 01:57:47,760
um

2818
01:57:53,350 --> 01:57:50,960
i i'm gonna ask you something directly

2819
01:57:55,430 --> 01:57:53,360
i'm a big fan of stanley kubrick

2820
01:57:58,790 --> 01:57:55,440
yeah and

2821
01:58:00,629 --> 01:57:58,800
i felt a little

2822
01:58:02,950 --> 01:58:00,639
kubrick ascii

2823
01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:02,960
on the set yes

2824
01:58:08,149 --> 01:58:05,520
and and i i hope you understand we've

2825
01:58:10,709 --> 01:58:08,159
never discussed this okay

2826
01:58:18,070 --> 01:58:14,470
that vibe that feeling that crispness

2827
01:58:21,030 --> 01:58:18,080
um also the uh uh what's the word i want

2828
01:58:23,589 --> 01:58:21,040
to use here a little kitschy

2829
01:58:24,629 --> 01:58:23,599
yeah is is that the right word

2830
01:58:30,229 --> 01:58:24,639
was that

2831
01:58:31,430 --> 01:58:30,239
a little nod to stanley in in the

2832
01:58:34,950 --> 01:58:31,440
delivery

2833
01:58:38,790 --> 01:58:34,960
most definitely and um you know stanley

2834
01:58:41,109 --> 01:58:38,800
in in regards to uh filmmakers and in my

2835
01:58:42,870 --> 01:58:41,119
world who i respect is is

2836
01:58:44,790 --> 01:58:42,880
you know at the top tier there at the

2837
01:58:46,629 --> 01:58:44,800
center of the table at the

2838
01:58:49,350 --> 01:58:46,639
uh you know the north position of

2839
01:58:52,070 --> 01:58:49,360
holding the the space for all filmmakers

2840
01:58:55,270 --> 01:58:52,080
that truly wanted to create arc art and

2841
01:58:57,589 --> 01:58:55,280
create catharsis through art but also

2842
01:58:59,910 --> 01:58:57,599
the subconscious that delivered the

2843
01:59:01,750 --> 01:58:59,920
archetypes and the archetypal stories

2844
01:59:04,470 --> 01:59:01,760
and the narratives

2845
01:59:06,709 --> 01:59:04,480
that are in stanley's work here

2846
01:59:08,790 --> 01:59:06,719
because he was such a deep dreamer in

2847
01:59:10,709 --> 01:59:08,800
that space

2848
01:59:12,470 --> 01:59:10,719
he brought in a lot and there are a lot

2849
01:59:14,550 --> 01:59:12,480
of messages there

2850
01:59:17,510 --> 01:59:14,560
that are there for people to see and

2851
01:59:20,070 --> 01:59:17,520
understand in the subconscious but also

2852
01:59:21,510 --> 01:59:20,080
in you know pulling apart his work and

2853
01:59:23,270 --> 01:59:21,520
really looking at it and there's you

2854
01:59:25,109 --> 01:59:23,280
know there's plenty of rabbit holes out

2855
01:59:27,270 --> 01:59:25,119
there for people that haven't done that

2856
01:59:30,550 --> 01:59:27,280
before to stumble down and look into his

2857
01:59:33,030 --> 01:59:30,560
work and it's incredible but his ability

2858
01:59:35,589 --> 01:59:33,040
to use again art in that same way as a

2859
01:59:38,470 --> 01:59:35,599
weapon and a tool and a catharsis for

2860
01:59:41,510 --> 01:59:38,480
himself is something i've always always

2861
01:59:43,510 --> 01:59:41,520
admired in that experience and aspire to

2862
01:59:46,550 --> 01:59:43,520
in my own work to be present with all

2863
01:59:49,390 --> 01:59:46,560
the time and so yes those things those

2864
01:59:51,189 --> 01:59:49,400
uh you know um different kitschy

2865
01:59:53,830 --> 01:59:51,199
stylizations and things that came

2866
01:59:56,870 --> 01:59:53,840
together um it wasn't intentional to

2867
01:59:58,390 --> 01:59:56,880
mimic his uh you know work there but as

2868
02:00:01,030 --> 01:59:58,400
those things came together and felt

2869
02:00:02,709 --> 02:00:01,040
right with the collective we saw the the

2870
02:00:04,790 --> 02:00:02,719
gentle you know tip of the hat and the

2871
02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:04,800
knot of the acknowledgement and that

2872
02:00:08,870 --> 02:00:07,440
which became a force in itself right um

2873
02:00:10,550 --> 02:00:08,880
which we were then living in that

2874
02:00:13,910 --> 02:00:10,560
experience for sure so you're not

2875
02:00:15,510 --> 02:00:13,920
surprised that i that i brought this up

2876
02:00:17,669 --> 02:00:15,520
not at all

2877
02:00:19,430 --> 02:00:17,679
if somebody else makes a comment there's

2878
02:00:21,990 --> 02:00:19,440
going to be reviews

2879
02:00:23,750 --> 02:00:22,000
right are you hoping somebody is going

2880
02:00:25,589 --> 02:00:23,760
to recognize

2881
02:00:27,589 --> 02:00:25,599
something as cool as that

2882
02:00:29,510 --> 02:00:27,599
yes i think that uh

2883
02:00:32,470 --> 02:00:29,520
uh though there'll be a lot of things

2884
02:00:35,350 --> 02:00:32,480
that'll be recognized in this

2885
02:00:37,510 --> 02:00:35,360
it's a very very interesting film for

2886
02:00:39,430 --> 02:00:37,520
for it's a gift for all of you out there

2887
02:00:42,229 --> 02:00:39,440
and the public it's a gift from all of

2888
02:00:44,310 --> 02:00:42,239
us that are truly in the surrender of

2889
02:00:46,149 --> 02:00:44,320
this work in this path and holding this

2890
02:00:48,149 --> 02:00:46,159
space for all of you guys and you

2891
02:00:50,070 --> 02:00:48,159
holding the space for us uh this

2892
02:00:52,229 --> 02:00:50,080
community whatever the truth community

2893
02:00:54,310 --> 02:00:52,239
ufology community whatever it is now the

2894
02:00:56,550 --> 02:00:54,320
observers that are willing to see and

2895
02:00:58,550 --> 02:00:56,560
observe in a new reality out there we

2896
02:01:00,629 --> 02:00:58,560
thank you we love you and this this film

2897
02:01:02,470 --> 02:01:00,639
is truly a work of art for you guys and

2898
02:01:04,790 --> 02:01:02,480
and you're a part of it stay right there

2899
02:01:07,030 --> 02:01:04,800
roger we've got one more segment left

2900
02:01:08,470 --> 02:01:07,040
director roger r richards is with us

2901
02:01:11,030 --> 02:01:08,480
tonight this is faded black i'm real

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jimmy church we're talking about his new

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02:01:19,530 --> 02:01:13,920
film it's releasing on november 18th the

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02:01:23,270 --> 02:01:20,690
[Applause]

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02:05:15,669 --> 02:05:11,599
[Applause]

2989
02:05:18,550 --> 02:05:15,679
you want to know a secret i love ponies

2990
02:05:20,470 --> 02:05:18,560
i really love ponies i'm serious

2991
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i couldn't stay sane without pulling

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02:05:24,229 --> 02:05:22,159
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02:05:30,629 --> 02:05:24,239
why fade to black

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02:05:36,650 --> 02:05:32,870
this is fade to black with jimmy church

2995
02:05:49,750 --> 02:05:36,660
on the game changer radio network

2996
02:05:51,350 --> 02:05:49,760
[Music]

2997
02:05:53,589 --> 02:05:51,360
welcome back fade to black i'm your host

2998
02:05:55,270 --> 02:05:53,599
jimmy church tonight our guest roger r

2999
02:05:57,830 --> 02:05:55,280
richards tomorrow night

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02:05:59,350 --> 02:05:57,840
paula harris is with us

3001
02:06:01,430 --> 02:05:59,360
thursday night's another fader night

3002
02:06:03,030 --> 02:06:01,440
with open lines all night long i'm

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02:06:05,510 --> 02:06:03,040
murals jimmy church this is fade to

3004
02:06:08,870 --> 02:06:05,520
black what a great conversation tonight

3005
02:06:10,950 --> 02:06:08,880
and and i kind of saved uh the best for

3006
02:06:13,189 --> 02:06:10,960
last uh roger

3007
02:06:14,950 --> 02:06:13,199
and and it is this

3008
02:06:17,189 --> 02:06:14,960
um

3009
02:06:19,669 --> 02:06:17,199
there isn't there

3010
02:06:24,550 --> 02:06:19,679
isn't any

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02:06:27,030 --> 02:06:24,560
reboots of classic ufo cases and an

3012
02:06:28,709 --> 02:06:27,040
analysis there's a time and place for

3013
02:06:30,790 --> 02:06:28,719
that and if you're going to do that kind

3014
02:06:32,069 --> 02:06:30,800
of documentary that's great you know

3015
02:06:35,750 --> 02:06:32,079
what to expect

3016
02:06:37,510 --> 02:06:35,760
but that is not in this film

3017
02:06:39,109 --> 02:06:37,520
why

3018
02:06:41,350 --> 02:06:39,119
you know i think

3019
02:06:43,109 --> 02:06:41,360
there has been a real healthy amount of

3020
02:06:44,790 --> 02:06:43,119
media for years that looked at these

3021
02:06:47,270 --> 02:06:44,800
cases you know and and and picked them

3022
02:06:50,149 --> 02:06:47,280
apart over and over you know in

3023
02:06:52,550 --> 02:06:50,159
different interpretations of uh you know

3024
02:06:54,790 --> 02:06:52,560
uh those experiences and what was

3025
02:06:57,189 --> 02:06:54,800
recorded the different interviews and

3026
02:06:59,830 --> 02:06:57,199
witnesses that you know were there and

3027
02:07:01,910 --> 02:06:59,840
and whatnot and i think that those are

3028
02:07:03,990 --> 02:07:01,920
incredibly valid conversations for

3029
02:07:05,750 --> 02:07:04,000
anybody that's coming to the ufo topic

3030
02:07:07,589 --> 02:07:05,760
in general to start off with and

3031
02:07:09,270 --> 02:07:07,599
understand because they're kind of that

3032
02:07:11,350 --> 02:07:09,280
first level that first fail that you

3033
02:07:13,030 --> 02:07:11,360
have to approach and and kind of digest

3034
02:07:16,390 --> 02:07:13,040
in regards to the you know the

3035
02:07:18,790 --> 02:07:16,400
collective mythology and folklore and

3036
02:07:22,550 --> 02:07:18,800
the subculture that is this kind of

3037
02:07:23,350 --> 02:07:22,560
community but in the kind of more modern

3038
02:07:26,149 --> 02:07:23,360
um

3039
02:07:28,470 --> 02:07:26,159
you know interpretation of what this is

3040
02:07:30,390 --> 02:07:28,480
you get into the understanding that this

3041
02:07:32,950 --> 02:07:30,400
thing has been pulled apart for decades

3042
02:07:34,950 --> 02:07:32,960
now by groups and um you know people

3043
02:07:36,870 --> 02:07:34,960
that have had experiences people that

3044
02:07:38,950 --> 02:07:36,880
are contactees people that you know are

3045
02:07:40,470 --> 02:07:38,960
channelers there's a

3046
02:07:42,790 --> 02:07:40,480
mass spectrum

3047
02:07:44,229 --> 02:07:42,800
of color that is available

3048
02:07:46,550 --> 02:07:44,239
in all different types of

3049
02:07:48,310 --> 02:07:46,560
interpretations around these anomalous

3050
02:07:50,709 --> 02:07:48,320
experiences associated with this

3051
02:07:53,109 --> 02:07:50,719
technology and so

3052
02:07:55,030 --> 02:07:53,119
with the observers here what we wanted

3053
02:07:59,589 --> 02:07:55,040
to do was we wanted to create the

3054
02:08:02,149 --> 02:07:59,599
aggregates like the the most uh you know

3055
02:08:03,830 --> 02:08:02,159
all senses maxed out like rubbing peanut

3056
02:08:06,229 --> 02:08:03,840
butter and chocolate on the roof of your

3057
02:08:08,709 --> 02:08:06,239
mouth like everything that you could

3058
02:08:11,510 --> 02:08:08,719
condense into these people who have been

3059
02:08:13,270 --> 02:08:11,520
aggregates researchers experiencers etc

3060
02:08:15,750 --> 02:08:13,280
they've archived this knowledge in their

3061
02:08:17,270 --> 02:08:15,760
body and in the the work that they have

3062
02:08:18,149 --> 02:08:17,280
done the body of work that they have

3063
02:08:20,950 --> 02:08:18,159
done

3064
02:08:22,790 --> 02:08:20,960
in their lives and so the observers here

3065
02:08:25,910 --> 02:08:22,800
was really about that what is the

3066
02:08:27,669 --> 02:08:25,920
richest story of detail that can be told

3067
02:08:29,669 --> 02:08:27,679
in all its spectrum so you don't watch

3068
02:08:32,550 --> 02:08:29,679
this movie once but you watch it twice

3069
02:08:35,350 --> 02:08:32,560
three four five six times and it begins

3070
02:08:37,430 --> 02:08:35,360
to unfold in layers like you know a

3071
02:08:39,669 --> 02:08:37,440
flower a lotus or an onion whatever you

3072
02:08:41,990 --> 02:08:39,679
you know the metaphor it is you see more

3073
02:08:44,069 --> 02:08:42,000
you see more because it is jam-packed

3074
02:08:46,069 --> 02:08:44,079
it's not a linear story that follows you

3075
02:08:48,790 --> 02:08:46,079
know a single account of something that

3076
02:08:51,830 --> 02:08:48,800
happens it is the collective aggregate

3077
02:08:55,350 --> 02:08:51,840
of all these experiences you know pulled

3078
02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:55,360
together into this bigger story around

3079
02:09:02,629 --> 02:08:57,920
really unveiling what is behind this

3080
02:09:06,550 --> 02:09:02,639
word ufo or now uap and it is a

3081
02:09:08,550 --> 02:09:06,560
mass prism of colors and interpretations

3082
02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:08,560
of experiences that are there that need

3083
02:09:13,270 --> 02:09:10,960
to be understood and that's that's why

3084
02:09:15,189 --> 02:09:13,280
um you know the observers films focuses

3085
02:09:17,910 --> 02:09:15,199
from that standpoint as opposed to you

3086
02:09:20,069 --> 02:09:17,920
know a single narrative of an event and

3087
02:09:22,229 --> 02:09:20,079
going through that well in in some

3088
02:09:26,709 --> 02:09:22,239
aspects uh certainly when you look at

3089
02:09:28,709 --> 02:09:26,719
the activists uh view of this film and

3090
02:09:31,189 --> 02:09:28,719
the vicious

3091
02:09:33,589 --> 02:09:31,199
right this is something that

3092
02:09:35,350 --> 02:09:33,599
uh is going to

3093
02:09:38,390 --> 02:09:35,360
shock some people

3094
02:09:40,310 --> 02:09:38,400
uh outside of our ufo community the ufo

3095
02:09:42,950 --> 02:09:40,320
community is going to fully enjoy this

3096
02:09:45,430 --> 02:09:42,960
film and appreciate it and understand it

3097
02:09:47,589 --> 02:09:45,440
the rest of the world now we're into

3098
02:09:49,990 --> 02:09:47,599
that vicious realm

3099
02:09:52,069 --> 02:09:50,000
are they ready is the world ready for

3100
02:09:53,750 --> 02:09:52,079
the message that this film is going to

3101
02:09:55,589 --> 02:09:53,760
deliver

3102
02:09:57,669 --> 02:09:55,599
the world called that message in that

3103
02:09:59,109 --> 02:09:57,679
film through us you know that's that's

3104
02:10:01,189 --> 02:09:59,119
that's why it arrived and why it

3105
02:10:02,629 --> 02:10:01,199
happened we were just the stewards for

3106
02:10:04,709 --> 02:10:02,639
the world needing that message and

3107
02:10:06,790 --> 02:10:04,719
wanting it to come through you know as a

3108
02:10:08,310 --> 02:10:06,800
filmmaker and the collaborative that was

3109
02:10:11,830 --> 02:10:08,320
there to share this and the people that

3110
02:10:13,830 --> 02:10:11,840
were there um you know in in in no way

3111
02:10:16,709 --> 02:10:13,840
can you know a single person take

3112
02:10:19,350 --> 02:10:16,719
responsibility for what that is and why

3113
02:10:21,350 --> 02:10:19,360
that came through and that experience um

3114
02:10:22,629 --> 02:10:21,360
the world needs this message it creates

3115
02:10:24,790 --> 02:10:22,639
art in the subconscious of the

3116
02:10:26,550 --> 02:10:24,800
collective conscious and it delivers

3117
02:10:28,470 --> 02:10:26,560
that through oracles who are the artists

3118
02:10:29,510 --> 02:10:28,480
or the dreamers the daydreamers the

3119
02:10:32,310 --> 02:10:29,520
people that are

3120
02:10:35,109 --> 02:10:32,320
that have the ability to dream into real

3121
02:10:36,629 --> 02:10:35,119
life and and and manifest these things

3122
02:10:38,310 --> 02:10:36,639
those people are the ones that carry

3123
02:10:39,589 --> 02:10:38,320
those burdens and pull them into this

3124
02:10:42,229 --> 02:10:39,599
experience but they're really just

3125
02:10:44,470 --> 02:10:42,239
delivering it for for all of us so this

3126
02:10:46,229 --> 02:10:44,480
work here and the intentions that were

3127
02:10:47,830 --> 02:10:46,239
set forward to do by the people that

3128
02:10:49,750 --> 02:10:47,840
were doing it

3129
02:10:51,589 --> 02:10:49,760
the entire process that we all went

3130
02:10:53,750 --> 02:10:51,599
through in that experience that was

3131
02:10:55,990 --> 02:10:53,760
directly at the hand and the desire in

3132
02:10:58,149 --> 02:10:56,000
my perspective of the collective

3133
02:11:00,790 --> 02:10:58,159
consciousness pouring that story through

3134
02:11:02,629 --> 02:11:00,800
us and so you know if the question is

3135
02:11:03,990 --> 02:11:02,639
can the world handle it right now it's

3136
02:11:06,149 --> 02:11:04,000
actually what they've been craving to

3137
02:11:08,629 --> 02:11:06,159
understand and know and we've done the

3138
02:11:10,390 --> 02:11:08,639
best in our humblest forms that we could

3139
02:11:12,229 --> 02:11:10,400
to interpret these things and pull them

3140
02:11:14,310 --> 02:11:12,239
together uh the best that we could to

3141
02:11:16,069 --> 02:11:14,320
show them the great wealth of knowledge

3142
02:11:17,430 --> 02:11:16,079
that is there to to understand and

3143
02:11:19,589 --> 02:11:17,440
that's waiting for us that we don't have

3144
02:11:22,149 --> 02:11:19,599
to be scared of anymore well there's a

3145
02:11:23,350 --> 02:11:22,159
crescendo that is happening there's a

3146
02:11:25,510 --> 02:11:23,360
wave

3147
02:11:28,470 --> 02:11:25,520
a literal

3148
02:11:30,790 --> 02:11:28,480
tidal wave that has been set the stage

3149
02:11:32,870 --> 02:11:30,800
has been set through the media through

3150
02:11:34,709 --> 02:11:32,880
congress through the senate through the

3151
02:11:35,990 --> 02:11:34,719
department of defense

3152
02:11:38,950 --> 02:11:36,000
uh

3153
02:11:41,830 --> 02:11:38,960
science and exoplanets the stage has

3154
02:11:44,950 --> 02:11:41,840
been it has been building

3155
02:11:45,990 --> 02:11:44,960
and riding on this wave is a film like

3156
02:11:50,069 --> 02:11:46,000
this

3157
02:11:52,069 --> 02:11:50,079
which is releasing during the peak of

3158
02:11:54,229 --> 02:11:52,079
this conversation

3159
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:54,239
right and and that's exactly what's

3160
02:11:59,830 --> 02:11:55,360
happening

3161
02:12:02,069 --> 02:11:59,840
the world of ufology there are many

3162
02:12:05,830 --> 02:12:02,079
different groups and different agendas

3163
02:12:08,229 --> 02:12:05,840
um that have all different interests in

3164
02:12:12,229 --> 02:12:08,239
you know their contributions to the

3165
02:12:14,149 --> 02:12:12,239
world of ufology and um you know and you

3166
02:12:16,149 --> 02:12:14,159
can know them by their call signs in all

3167
02:12:18,709 --> 02:12:16,159
different ways the more that you spend

3168
02:12:20,950 --> 02:12:18,719
and you analyze and you watch the the

3169
02:12:23,189 --> 02:12:20,960
communities in their different you know

3170
02:12:24,550 --> 02:12:23,199
kind of warring tribes or however you

3171
02:12:25,910 --> 02:12:24,560
kind of you know there's some people

3172
02:12:27,669 --> 02:12:25,920
that are you know focused on the

3173
02:12:29,270 --> 02:12:27,679
technology aspect of it there's some

3174
02:12:30,790 --> 02:12:29,280
people that are focused on the contact

3175
02:12:32,790 --> 02:12:30,800
aspect of it there's some people that

3176
02:12:34,470 --> 02:12:32,800
are focused on the money that's being

3177
02:12:36,390 --> 02:12:34,480
stolen by the governments into these

3178
02:12:37,990 --> 02:12:36,400
sides of things like you know the the

3179
02:12:39,750 --> 02:12:38,000
the richness and the complexities that

3180
02:12:42,069 --> 02:12:39,760
are available for people to pull apart

3181
02:12:45,910 --> 02:12:42,079
and understand there are you know are

3182
02:12:48,870 --> 02:12:45,920
are absolutely huge in regards to what's

3183
02:12:51,109 --> 02:12:48,880
shown in this film here and

3184
02:12:52,550 --> 02:12:51,119
you know presented in the film and so

3185
02:12:53,830 --> 02:12:52,560
like

3186
02:12:56,229 --> 02:12:53,840
you know one of the things i want to

3187
02:12:59,430 --> 02:12:56,239
just say here too before you know the

3188
02:13:01,750 --> 02:12:59,440
time gets so short um

3189
02:13:03,910 --> 02:13:01,760
this work and the work that comes after

3190
02:13:06,709 --> 02:13:03,920
it for all of us here collectively to

3191
02:13:09,589 --> 02:13:06,719
acknowledge this now this is this is uh

3192
02:13:11,589 --> 02:13:09,599
this is happening okay the uap report

3193
02:13:13,750 --> 02:13:11,599
and what has been shown there is that

3194
02:13:15,830 --> 02:13:13,760
there is a war right now between these

3195
02:13:17,189 --> 02:13:15,840
intelligence agencies that are fighting

3196
02:13:19,030 --> 02:13:17,199
each other around the narrative that

3197
02:13:21,109 --> 02:13:19,040
does get rolled out so this idea of

3198
02:13:22,870 --> 02:13:21,119
disclosure and you know when are we

3199
02:13:24,310 --> 02:13:22,880
going to get a disclosure well they're

3200
02:13:25,830 --> 02:13:24,320
trying to fight and there's all these

3201
02:13:27,109 --> 02:13:25,840
different agendas of who's going to roll

3202
02:13:29,910 --> 02:13:27,119
that how they're going to roll it out

3203
02:13:31,750 --> 02:13:29,920
etc we need to suck the life out of that

3204
02:13:33,430 --> 02:13:31,760
here as a collective and make sure that

3205
02:13:35,750 --> 02:13:33,440
they don't have the opportunity to do

3206
02:13:37,830 --> 02:13:35,760
that and the other experience of that is

3207
02:13:40,069 --> 02:13:37,840
that we observe everything into reality

3208
02:13:43,189 --> 02:13:40,079
and we pull it all into reality and the

3209
02:13:45,510 --> 02:13:43,199
only the ability for us to do that is

3210
02:13:47,109 --> 02:13:45,520
the ability to bear each other to bear

3211
02:13:49,350 --> 02:13:47,119
the darkness in each other to bear the

3212
02:13:51,030 --> 02:13:49,360
darkness in ourselves that is mirrored

3213
02:13:53,510 --> 02:13:51,040
in the truths that we will pull out

3214
02:13:56,229 --> 02:13:53,520
because they are very dark they are very

3215
02:13:59,270 --> 02:13:56,239
very dark when it comes to the this

3216
02:14:01,430 --> 02:13:59,280
spectrum of darkness that can be asked

3217
02:14:03,510 --> 02:14:01,440
accessed by a human being but in the

3218
02:14:05,510 --> 02:14:03,520
other side of that there is the light

3219
02:14:07,109 --> 02:14:05,520
spectrum that's calling through all of

3220
02:14:09,990 --> 02:14:07,119
us that want to shine light and our

3221
02:14:12,310 --> 02:14:10,000
perspective and our observations onto

3222
02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:12,320
this moment here

3223
02:14:16,149 --> 02:14:14,639
we can take that back as a collective as

3224
02:14:17,669 --> 02:14:16,159
a collective consciousness we can

3225
02:14:19,589 --> 02:14:17,679
steward this in here we don't have to

3226
02:14:21,669 --> 02:14:19,599
wait for them we don't have to let their

3227
02:14:24,069 --> 02:14:21,679
war settle out so they can deliver some

3228
02:14:25,990 --> 02:14:24,079
form of disclosure based off of a battle

3229
02:14:28,149 --> 02:14:26,000
where they're watching you all right now

3230
02:14:30,390 --> 02:14:28,159
we see you as a collective we see you as

3231
02:14:32,629 --> 02:14:30,400
a community and we will witness and we

3232
02:14:34,950 --> 02:14:32,639
will archive and we will record this all

3233
02:14:36,229 --> 02:14:34,960
together and before anyone knows it

3234
02:14:38,229 --> 02:14:36,239
there will be a body of knowledge

3235
02:14:39,990 --> 02:14:38,239
already out there and disclosure will be

3236
02:14:43,589 --> 02:14:40,000
here it's happening now it's right

3237
02:14:46,550 --> 02:14:43,599
around you now um i want to turn back uh

3238
02:14:48,149 --> 02:14:46,560
time a little bit because for the

3239
02:14:51,430 --> 02:14:48,159
audience and

3240
02:14:53,750 --> 02:14:51,440
and and who roger r richards is in in

3241
02:14:55,189 --> 02:14:53,760
this film that's one thing that's in the

3242
02:14:58,629 --> 02:14:55,199
now now

3243
02:14:59,750 --> 02:14:58,639
but the word disclosure and your efforts

3244
02:15:03,270 --> 02:14:59,760
uh

3245
02:15:07,030 --> 02:15:03,280
almost 10 years ago

3246
02:15:10,390 --> 02:15:07,040
right and your focus on disclosure and

3247
02:15:13,350 --> 02:15:10,400
and this mission has been going on now

3248
02:15:15,830 --> 02:15:13,360
for for 10 years or even longer

3249
02:15:17,589 --> 02:15:15,840
and that's really important for the

3250
02:15:19,669 --> 02:15:17,599
audience to understand

3251
02:15:21,589 --> 02:15:19,679
uh not to get into the

3252
02:15:24,229 --> 02:15:21,599
the specifics of

3253
02:15:26,790 --> 02:15:24,239
of the word disclosure and what you were

3254
02:15:28,550 --> 02:15:26,800
doing with that word

3255
02:15:32,069 --> 02:15:28,560
10 years ago

3256
02:15:35,109 --> 02:15:32,079
but it is coming to fruition now it has

3257
02:15:37,990 --> 02:15:35,119
been a long journey for you roger did

3258
02:15:40,790 --> 02:15:38,000
you expect it to get to the point that

3259
02:15:42,870 --> 02:15:40,800
it is now uh going back to when this

3260
02:15:45,910 --> 02:15:42,880
journey started

3261
02:15:48,550 --> 02:15:45,920
no i didn't you know expect it and uh

3262
02:15:49,430 --> 02:15:48,560
honestly it was one of those things that

3263
02:15:51,669 --> 02:15:49,440
you know

3264
02:15:53,830 --> 02:15:51,679
it's it's hard to even look forward in

3265
02:15:56,069 --> 02:15:53,840
this journey because it's been so uh

3266
02:15:59,109 --> 02:15:56,079
hyper personal for me and so i don't

3267
02:16:01,189 --> 02:15:59,119
share my experiences out uh you know

3268
02:16:03,910 --> 02:16:01,199
publicly around you know what's brought

3269
02:16:04,950 --> 02:16:03,920
me into this necessarily here but i will

3270
02:16:06,709 --> 02:16:04,960
share that

3271
02:16:08,310 --> 02:16:06,719
you know i have my own enigma that i've

3272
02:16:11,109 --> 02:16:08,320
been trying to understand within my own

3273
02:16:13,430 --> 02:16:11,119
family um you know my entire life around

3274
02:16:15,750 --> 02:16:13,440
things and experiences that uh you know

3275
02:16:18,310 --> 02:16:15,760
i've gone through and um you know this

3276
02:16:20,229 --> 02:16:18,320
is this is heavily wrapped up in my own

3277
02:16:22,950 --> 02:16:20,239
personal understanding of who i am so

3278
02:16:25,109 --> 02:16:22,960
the artwork my intentions my my

3279
02:16:27,750 --> 02:16:25,119
willingness to contribute as an activist

3280
02:16:31,350 --> 02:16:27,760
my desire to inspire others in that same

3281
02:16:34,309 --> 02:16:31,360
place really comes from the the

3282
02:16:36,150 --> 02:16:34,319
the well of service i i want to provide

3283
02:16:37,669 --> 02:16:36,160
so that i can be in a place of healing

3284
02:16:40,709 --> 02:16:37,679
and understanding my own journey and it

3285
02:16:42,230 --> 02:16:40,719
has been very much that it has uh this

3286
02:16:45,349 --> 02:16:42,240
journey as a filmmaker to go through

3287
02:16:46,870 --> 02:16:45,359
this experience and understand these uh

3288
02:16:49,030 --> 02:16:46,880
you know uh

3289
02:16:50,309 --> 02:16:49,040
pockets of aggregated knowledge through

3290
02:16:51,429 --> 02:16:50,319
all of these different people i've

3291
02:16:54,070 --> 02:16:51,439
interviewed through all these different

3292
02:16:56,790 --> 02:16:54,080
films over the years um has just been

3293
02:16:59,509 --> 02:16:56,800
the most incredible gift for me as an

3294
02:17:02,150 --> 02:16:59,519
observer to tie in and understand my own

3295
02:17:04,870 --> 02:17:02,160
story to have this body of knowledge to

3296
02:17:09,349 --> 02:17:04,880
to kind of reference that against and so

3297
02:17:11,669 --> 02:17:09,359
you know in 2012 i i had deeply the

3298
02:17:13,270 --> 02:17:11,679
understanding and the awakening in me

3299
02:17:15,509 --> 02:17:13,280
that there had never been a movement for

3300
02:17:17,910 --> 02:17:15,519
disclosure a ufology movement in the

3301
02:17:19,349 --> 02:17:17,920
same way that there was you know occupy

3302
02:17:21,190 --> 02:17:19,359
at the time you know was what i was

3303
02:17:23,990 --> 02:17:21,200
referencing you know in my consciousness

3304
02:17:26,309 --> 02:17:24,000
at that time but there wasn't and that i

3305
02:17:28,950 --> 02:17:26,319
needed to you know usher in this this

3306
02:17:31,509 --> 02:17:28,960
thing contact 2012 at the time was where

3307
02:17:33,830 --> 02:17:31,519
that idea made contact with me and then

3308
02:17:35,270 --> 02:17:33,840
over the years blossomed into my work

3309
02:17:37,190 --> 02:17:35,280
into you know the work of full

3310
02:17:39,190 --> 02:17:37,200
disclosure now into the work of the

3311
02:17:41,429 --> 02:17:39,200
films into the work of you know this

3312
02:17:44,150 --> 02:17:41,439
collective and this group that has built

3313
02:17:46,950 --> 02:17:44,160
and now around doing these films

3314
02:17:49,509 --> 02:17:46,960
you know this is a labor of love but

3315
02:17:51,429 --> 02:17:49,519
it's also my own madness to understand

3316
02:17:53,990 --> 02:17:51,439
in my own personal journey it's an

3317
02:17:56,950 --> 02:17:54,000
obsession for myself to

3318
02:17:59,589 --> 02:17:56,960
go as far as i can dig as deep as i can

3319
02:18:02,309 --> 02:17:59,599
and pull apart my ego as much as needed

3320
02:18:04,790 --> 02:18:02,319
to to understand these things because i

3321
02:18:06,950 --> 02:18:04,800
did observe them i know that without a

3322
02:18:09,589 --> 02:18:06,960
doubt these uh these things these

3323
02:18:11,509 --> 02:18:09,599
observations are highly sacred in my

3324
02:18:13,190 --> 02:18:11,519
experiences and are deeply a part of

3325
02:18:15,669 --> 02:18:13,200
that and i there are many people out

3326
02:18:17,589 --> 02:18:15,679
there in the most subtlest ways that may

3327
02:18:18,790 --> 02:18:17,599
even have instincts about different

3328
02:18:20,790 --> 02:18:18,800
things that they've experienced but

3329
02:18:22,790 --> 02:18:20,800
don't understand them and the more that

3330
02:18:25,110 --> 02:18:22,800
people are drawn to this community and

3331
02:18:26,790 --> 02:18:25,120
understanding this great greater body of

3332
02:18:29,990 --> 02:18:26,800
knowledge and work that's being observed

3333
02:18:30,870 --> 02:18:30,000
collectively in all of these anomalies

3334
02:18:34,870 --> 02:18:30,880
many

3335
02:18:36,389 --> 02:18:34,880
understanding in themselves that they

3336
02:18:38,709 --> 02:18:36,399
have witnessed and observed something

3337
02:18:40,629 --> 02:18:38,719
also in that experience so yes that is a

3338
02:18:43,349 --> 02:18:40,639
part of why i do this

3339
02:18:45,669 --> 02:18:43,359
are we at and then i'm gonna shift uh

3340
02:18:47,669 --> 02:18:45,679
with the limited time uh that we have

3341
02:18:51,990 --> 02:18:47,679
left into another direction

3342
02:18:54,309 --> 02:18:52,000
but do you feel that uh we're getting

3343
02:18:57,030 --> 02:18:54,319
close to

3344
02:18:59,990 --> 02:18:57,040
some kind of resolution uh in the

3345
02:19:03,669 --> 02:19:00,000
disclosure world and what that means or

3346
02:19:05,349 --> 02:19:03,679
is this an ongoing this is endless

3347
02:19:07,190 --> 02:19:05,359
we're never going to master the word

3348
02:19:09,830 --> 02:19:07,200
disclosure right

3349
02:19:11,349 --> 02:19:09,840
this journey will continue or

3350
02:19:13,669 --> 02:19:11,359
are we

3351
02:19:15,509 --> 02:19:13,679
you know at at the end is there light at

3352
02:19:18,389 --> 02:19:15,519
the end of the tunnel

3353
02:19:20,549 --> 02:19:18,399
i think that this is a chapter this is a

3354
02:19:22,549 --> 02:19:20,559
progression through the next leg of this

3355
02:19:24,070 --> 02:19:22,559
journey here for all of us and it's

3356
02:19:26,549 --> 02:19:24,080
coming to a head like you said this

3357
02:19:28,709 --> 02:19:26,559
crescendo that you can track within you

3358
02:19:30,629 --> 02:19:28,719
know even the analytics of words and the

3359
02:19:32,549 --> 02:19:30,639
ability to see that you know mainstream

3360
02:19:34,389 --> 02:19:32,559
media is covering this stuff like crazy

3361
02:19:36,469 --> 02:19:34,399
right now you know the fact that there

3362
02:19:39,110 --> 02:19:36,479
are people like louisando who have come

3363
02:19:41,990 --> 02:19:39,120
forward and gotten extreme you know

3364
02:19:44,389 --> 02:19:42,000
public attention or on these topics um

3365
02:19:46,309 --> 02:19:44,399
you know they're there there is a lot of

3366
02:19:48,630 --> 02:19:46,319
interest now in the mainstream to bring

3367
02:19:50,550 --> 02:19:48,640
that out and you know there are agendas

3368
02:19:53,030 --> 02:19:50,560
behind that also in that experience

3369
02:19:55,110 --> 02:19:53,040
multiple agendas conflicting agendas and

3370
02:19:57,750 --> 02:19:55,120
when you get into that war and start

3371
02:20:00,790 --> 02:19:57,760
seeing that yeah you know kind of the

3372
02:20:02,550 --> 02:20:00,800
inner machinations of those uh you know

3373
02:20:05,030 --> 02:20:02,560
groups back there that are fighting for

3374
02:20:07,190 --> 02:20:05,040
this um you know opportunity to bring it

3375
02:20:09,349 --> 02:20:07,200
out or keep some things to suppress all

3376
02:20:11,750 --> 02:20:09,359
of the the different agendas there you

3377
02:20:14,230 --> 02:20:11,760
know that's what's being kind of called

3378
02:20:17,349 --> 02:20:14,240
out into the public here that we all you

3379
02:20:19,429 --> 02:20:17,359
know have to see and look at um you know

3380
02:20:22,790 --> 02:20:19,439
in this experience here

3381
02:20:25,429 --> 02:20:22,800
but ultimately you know in the end uh

3382
02:20:26,750 --> 02:20:25,439
the disclosure movement here i feel like

3383
02:20:29,429 --> 02:20:26,760
is trans

3384
02:20:31,270 --> 02:20:29,439
transmuting in this experience and it's

3385
02:20:33,670 --> 02:20:31,280
transmuting in a reversal from the

3386
02:20:35,910 --> 02:20:33,680
standpoint of you know things are now

3387
02:20:38,070 --> 02:20:35,920
changing it's no longer we're asking for

3388
02:20:40,070 --> 02:20:38,080
disclosure we're taking it into our own

3389
02:20:42,389 --> 02:20:40,080
hands we're taking accountability we're

3390
02:20:43,910 --> 02:20:42,399
taking responsibility we're being brave

3391
02:20:45,670 --> 02:20:43,920
enough you know the braves one tonight

3392
02:20:48,630 --> 02:20:45,680
which is incredible we're being brave

3393
02:20:51,030 --> 02:20:48,640
enough from the standpoint of uh you

3394
02:20:52,790 --> 02:20:51,040
know speaking out about these things and

3395
02:20:55,110 --> 02:20:52,800
talking about them without the fear of

3396
02:20:56,870 --> 02:20:55,120
being labeled with curses like uh

3397
02:20:59,670 --> 02:20:56,880
conspiracy theory

3398
02:21:02,870 --> 02:20:59,680
etc so i think this is a new chapter

3399
02:21:05,750 --> 02:21:02,880
here disclosure is transforming into the

3400
02:21:07,910 --> 02:21:05,760
idea of what we observe collectively

3401
02:21:09,670 --> 02:21:07,920
together that is deeply a part of the

3402
02:21:12,150 --> 02:21:09,680
quantum understanding that we're moving

3403
02:21:14,550 --> 02:21:12,160
into in this technological age it's

3404
02:21:17,190 --> 02:21:14,560
deeply a part of the understanding of

3405
02:21:19,510 --> 02:21:17,200
the merger between science and religion

3406
02:21:21,750 --> 02:21:19,520
spirituality in those things this is

3407
02:21:24,190 --> 02:21:21,760
what is on the precipice for all of us

3408
02:21:28,070 --> 02:21:24,200
right now so i do think it will

3409
02:21:29,990 --> 02:21:28,080
continually go and grow and this idea of

3410
02:21:33,270 --> 02:21:30,000
you know the constant mysteries of the

3411
02:21:35,670 --> 02:21:33,280
universe being unraveled and unveiled to

3412
02:21:37,429 --> 02:21:35,680
the observers in this experience here

3413
02:21:39,510 --> 02:21:37,439
that is infinite that is a loop that

3414
02:21:41,429 --> 02:21:39,520
goes and blossoms and creates

3415
02:21:44,070 --> 02:21:41,439
multiverses just like this fractal

3416
02:21:46,230 --> 02:21:44,080
flower that continually goes and and is

3417
02:21:49,030 --> 02:21:46,240
a part of this collective consciousness

3418
02:21:51,349 --> 02:21:49,040
this great psychedelic mind that we are

3419
02:21:53,590 --> 02:21:51,359
all a part of and in tune with in the

3420
02:21:56,070 --> 02:21:53,600
mother that is this earth here that

3421
02:21:59,510 --> 02:21:56,080
experience here is pulling through the

3422
02:22:02,389 --> 02:21:59,520
disclosure community as a very um you

3423
02:22:04,230 --> 02:22:02,399
know focused thought in its own and that

3424
02:22:06,389 --> 02:22:04,240
thought is evolving that thought is

3425
02:22:08,230 --> 02:22:06,399
growing that thought is expanding and

3426
02:22:10,389 --> 02:22:08,240
it's doing so because it's being talked

3427
02:22:12,469 --> 02:22:10,399
about it's being shared it's being

3428
02:22:14,630 --> 02:22:12,479
acknowledged you know for for for the

3429
02:22:16,790 --> 02:22:14,640
first time in all of these experiences

3430
02:22:19,190 --> 02:22:16,800
in a very very different way and so i

3431
02:22:21,510 --> 02:22:19,200
have a great hope for the transmutation

3432
02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:21,520
in the next chapter into this experience

3433
02:22:25,590 --> 02:22:23,520
collectively where we can all learn to

3434
02:22:27,990 --> 02:22:25,600
dream together in this experience and

3435
02:22:30,070 --> 02:22:28,000
dream into you know reality everything

3436
02:22:32,230 --> 02:22:30,080
that we will need to you know love each

3437
02:22:34,630 --> 02:22:32,240
other protect each other and remove

3438
02:22:37,349 --> 02:22:34,640
these separations that have you know

3439
02:22:39,750 --> 02:22:37,359
divided us all in this experience it's a

3440
02:22:41,670 --> 02:22:39,760
it is a great great perspective on the

3441
02:22:43,349 --> 02:22:41,680
horizon that's reaching out to all of us

3442
02:22:46,630 --> 02:22:43,359
a future that's already happened and is

3443
02:22:49,750 --> 02:22:46,640
finding us in the now now uh

3444
02:22:52,070 --> 02:22:49,760
and and i'm telling you uh you and i and

3445
02:22:53,270 --> 02:22:52,080
the team uh in a couple of months are

3446
02:22:55,510 --> 02:22:53,280
going to be able to just take a

3447
02:22:58,550 --> 02:22:55,520
collective breath and just laugh and

3448
02:23:02,230 --> 02:22:58,560
it's going to be a good dinner

3449
02:23:04,630 --> 02:23:02,240
wanted to ask you this now this is why i

3450
02:23:05,590 --> 02:23:04,640
want to shift gears and and loosen up a

3451
02:23:09,670 --> 02:23:05,600
little bit

3452
02:23:11,750 --> 02:23:09,680
but um it is entirely possible

3453
02:23:14,710 --> 02:23:11,760
to overthink a film

3454
02:23:15,990 --> 02:23:14,720
overthink the editing overthink second

3455
02:23:17,990 --> 02:23:16,000
guess

3456
02:23:19,190 --> 02:23:18,000
go back and change things that you

3457
02:23:21,670 --> 02:23:19,200
probably

3458
02:23:23,030 --> 02:23:21,680
shouldn't have changed because you have

3459
02:23:25,349 --> 02:23:23,040
time

3460
02:23:26,550 --> 02:23:25,359
this this this go around you didn't have

3461
02:23:29,270 --> 02:23:26,560
the time

3462
02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:29,280
you didn't have a chance to overthink it

3463
02:23:33,910 --> 02:23:31,760
so now your gut instincts

3464
02:23:36,150 --> 02:23:33,920
and for the team right

3465
02:23:38,870 --> 02:23:36,160
are are here

3466
02:23:41,110 --> 02:23:38,880
right is it possible to overthink a film

3467
02:23:44,150 --> 02:23:41,120
and and this time around

3468
02:23:44,950 --> 02:23:44,160
you weren't given that luxury right

3469
02:23:46,790 --> 02:23:44,960
so

3470
02:23:48,309 --> 02:23:46,800
you got what you got

3471
02:23:49,990 --> 02:23:48,319
i think the instincts of everybody

3472
02:23:51,670 --> 02:23:50,000
kicked in you know from the standpoint

3473
02:23:53,670 --> 02:23:51,680
of you know fight or flight in regards

3474
02:23:55,110 --> 02:23:53,680
to delivering what we needed to and so

3475
02:23:57,190 --> 02:23:55,120
again it comes back to you know what you

3476
02:23:59,110 --> 02:23:57,200
were highlighting earlier about just the

3477
02:24:00,710 --> 02:23:59,120
the pressure and the diamond thing you

3478
02:24:02,150 --> 02:24:00,720
know our instincts kind of you know

3479
02:24:03,670 --> 02:24:02,160
kicked into that experience and we're

3480
02:24:07,110 --> 02:24:03,680
all operating from the standpoint of

3481
02:24:08,790 --> 02:24:07,120
there is literally no time to you know

3482
02:24:10,469 --> 02:24:08,800
second guess things or go through it you

3483
02:24:12,790 --> 02:24:10,479
have to be in the moment which is an

3484
02:24:15,190 --> 02:24:12,800
incredible and and was an incredible

3485
02:24:18,070 --> 02:24:15,200
part of this journey for everyone here

3486
02:24:20,070 --> 02:24:18,080
in the meditation and the focus of the

3487
02:24:22,710 --> 02:24:20,080
term the observers and observing the

3488
02:24:24,630 --> 02:24:22,720
moment here we often as human beings

3489
02:24:26,710 --> 02:24:24,640
constantly forecast ourselves into the

3490
02:24:29,110 --> 02:24:26,720
future around the possibilities of what

3491
02:24:31,510 --> 02:24:29,120
we desire or what can hope and can come

3492
02:24:33,510 --> 02:24:31,520
our way you know from the standpoint of

3493
02:24:35,670 --> 02:24:33,520
you know wealth or love or whatever our

3494
02:24:37,910 --> 02:24:35,680
desires are and then we constantly look

3495
02:24:39,670 --> 02:24:37,920
back and regret the things and look at

3496
02:24:42,230 --> 02:24:39,680
and wish we could uh you know rewrite

3497
02:24:44,389 --> 02:24:42,240
those things you can do all of those

3498
02:24:46,150 --> 02:24:44,399
things control the your future and your

3499
02:24:48,790 --> 02:24:46,160
past here from this moment if you're

3500
02:24:50,870 --> 02:24:48,800
willing to observe and drink in every

3501
02:24:53,910 --> 02:24:50,880
amount of detail that can be accessed in

3502
02:24:56,150 --> 02:24:53,920
a second in a frame of this life and so

3503
02:24:58,630 --> 02:24:56,160
that that experience of working

3504
02:25:00,950 --> 02:24:58,640
instinctually as an artist and drinking

3505
02:25:03,270 --> 02:25:00,960
up the moment and just having to trust

3506
02:25:05,030 --> 02:25:03,280
those things was the gift that was given

3507
02:25:06,309 --> 02:25:05,040
around the restrictions of the the the

3508
02:25:07,670 --> 02:25:06,319
timing and

3509
02:25:09,110 --> 02:25:07,680
you know all of the pressure that we

3510
02:25:11,830 --> 02:25:09,120
were under in this place we didn't have

3511
02:25:13,910 --> 02:25:11,840
the opportunity to do anything else but

3512
02:25:15,670 --> 02:25:13,920
operate from our instincts and it was a

3513
02:25:17,990 --> 02:25:15,680
beautiful experience and it tied into

3514
02:25:20,389 --> 02:25:18,000
the the collective daydream that we had

3515
02:25:22,630 --> 02:25:20,399
together uh you know from the standpoint

3516
02:25:25,030 --> 02:25:22,640
of delivering what we needed to and just

3517
02:25:26,790 --> 02:25:25,040
being hyper present in the moment and um

3518
02:25:29,510 --> 02:25:26,800
you know dreaming that into reality you

3519
02:25:32,230 --> 02:25:29,520
know it's it's so funny to me uh to go

3520
02:25:33,349 --> 02:25:32,240
back to a musical analogy uh with all of

3521
02:25:35,750 --> 02:25:33,359
this

3522
02:25:37,990 --> 02:25:35,760
it doesn't matter what band you know led

3523
02:25:40,389 --> 02:25:38,000
zeppelin black sabbath van halen it

3524
02:25:42,150 --> 02:25:40,399
doesn't matter right leonard skinner it

3525
02:25:46,469 --> 02:25:42,160
doesn't matter

3526
02:25:48,710 --> 02:25:46,479
every one of their greatest hits

3527
02:25:49,740 --> 02:25:48,720
right they'll go well we wrote that in

3528
02:25:51,510 --> 02:25:49,750
five minutes

3529
02:25:53,590 --> 02:25:51,520
[Laughter]

3530
02:25:55,190 --> 02:25:53,600
that was the last they needed one more

3531
02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:55,200
song for the album and that was the

3532
02:26:00,230 --> 02:25:57,280
pressure from the record company so we

3533
02:26:02,389 --> 02:26:00,240
went in and we cut that in 20 minutes

3534
02:26:05,190 --> 02:26:02,399
and and that's it

3535
02:26:07,190 --> 02:26:05,200
but that's what happens right when you

3536
02:26:09,110 --> 02:26:07,200
don't overthink

3537
02:26:11,030 --> 02:26:09,120
exactly it's the fits of inspiration

3538
02:26:12,710 --> 02:26:11,040
that come through you know people call

3539
02:26:14,309 --> 02:26:12,720
them downloads in this community you

3540
02:26:16,230 --> 02:26:14,319
know from the higher self or you know

3541
02:26:17,670 --> 02:26:16,240
from other beings aspects of yourself in

3542
02:26:18,870 --> 02:26:17,680
the future past

3543
02:26:20,309 --> 02:26:18,880
but they're

3544
02:26:23,190 --> 02:26:20,319
they're the moments of quantum

3545
02:26:24,550 --> 02:26:23,200
entanglement where um you know just like

3546
02:26:25,990 --> 02:26:24,560
what happened to you today here jimmy

3547
02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:26,000
you got a little story for yourself to

3548
02:26:29,590 --> 02:26:27,920
share where you know your past caught up

3549
02:26:32,550 --> 02:26:29,600
with you in a moment and showed you an

3550
02:26:34,309 --> 02:26:32,560
incredible uh mini play a mini play that

3551
02:26:36,309 --> 02:26:34,319
showed up that's incredibly relevant to

3552
02:26:38,389 --> 02:26:36,319
you right now and even to this film and

3553
02:26:40,230 --> 02:26:38,399
what we're talking about here and those

3554
02:26:42,870 --> 02:26:40,240
experiences um

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02:26:44,870 --> 02:26:42,880
that we watch and you know witness in

3556
02:26:47,030 --> 02:26:44,880
the moment those little plays that you

3557
02:26:49,510 --> 02:26:47,040
know play out literally and we

3558
02:26:51,910 --> 02:26:49,520
participate in with each other all of

3559
02:26:53,910 --> 02:26:51,920
that experiences um you know all of

3560
02:26:55,670 --> 02:26:53,920
those experiences are helping us on

3561
02:26:57,750 --> 02:26:55,680
these journeys with each other to get to

3562
02:26:59,670 --> 02:26:57,760
this place of getting closer to each

3563
02:27:01,750 --> 02:26:59,680
other of stripping away the the things

3564
02:27:02,790 --> 02:27:01,760
that separate us from you know each

3565
02:27:05,670 --> 02:27:02,800
other and

3566
02:27:07,990 --> 02:27:05,680
and and being a whole collective and and

3567
02:27:09,990 --> 02:27:08,000
understanding the power of what it means

3568
02:27:12,389 --> 02:27:10,000
to be a healed family as a collective

3569
02:27:13,990 --> 02:27:12,399
like this idea right now that you know

3570
02:27:16,070 --> 02:27:14,000
we have billionaires that are pushing

3571
02:27:17,910 --> 02:27:16,080
themselves out to mars that are pushing

3572
02:27:18,630 --> 02:27:17,920
themselves out into space that are you

3573
02:27:23,349 --> 02:27:18,640
know

3574
02:27:25,429 --> 02:27:23,359
leaving the world here and expanding out

3575
02:27:27,030 --> 02:27:25,439
on that well what does that really mean

3576
02:27:29,190 --> 02:27:27,040
and trickle down to in the larger

3577
02:27:32,469 --> 02:27:29,200
archetype of this place you know it

3578
02:27:34,630 --> 02:27:32,479
means that we're one family we become

3579
02:27:36,630 --> 02:27:34,640
the family from this planet here this is

3580
02:27:38,870 --> 02:27:36,640
us uh you know these these these

3581
02:27:40,630 --> 02:27:38,880
countries and borders and and and

3582
02:27:42,870 --> 02:27:40,640
different separations dissolve against

3583
02:27:46,150 --> 02:27:42,880
the idea that we live on this very very

3584
02:27:48,389 --> 02:27:46,160
precious small beautiful planet that is

3585
02:27:50,550 --> 02:27:48,399
in perfect balance and must be in

3586
02:27:53,670 --> 02:27:50,560
perfect balance to even host this

3587
02:27:55,990 --> 02:27:53,680
experience here for us and so in the

3588
02:27:58,389 --> 02:27:56,000
disclosure movements and the the

3589
02:28:00,870 --> 02:27:58,399
observers film and the work that we kind

3590
02:28:03,429 --> 02:28:00,880
of all are pouring in together here and

3591
02:28:05,590 --> 02:28:03,439
again accessing the this moment right

3592
02:28:07,830 --> 02:28:05,600
now in time where we are leaving and we

3593
02:28:11,190 --> 02:28:07,840
are are branching out into the universe

3594
02:28:13,030 --> 02:28:11,200
we're reaching out now to you know the

3595
02:28:15,990 --> 02:28:13,040
possibilities of what those things could

3596
02:28:19,670 --> 02:28:16,000
be at the same time we are truly

3597
02:28:22,710 --> 02:28:19,680
understanding how uh unique we are as a

3598
02:28:25,590 --> 02:28:22,720
community on this planet and um

3599
02:28:28,550 --> 02:28:25,600
and the ability to be a family again and

3600
02:28:30,950 --> 02:28:28,560
really hone that experience collectively

3601
02:28:32,790 --> 02:28:30,960
is what's seeking us right now all of

3602
02:28:34,790 --> 02:28:32,800
this stuff that's playing out in

3603
02:28:36,950 --> 02:28:34,800
distortions and

3604
02:28:39,030 --> 02:28:36,960
battles between polarity and sides and

3605
02:28:40,790 --> 02:28:39,040
all those things they are great dances

3606
02:28:42,790 --> 02:28:40,800
and great plays for every unique

3607
02:28:45,510 --> 02:28:42,800
individual that needs those experiences

3608
02:28:47,429 --> 02:28:45,520
here and the more that you hone into the

3609
02:28:50,389 --> 02:28:47,439
understanding of what is to come and how

3610
02:28:52,710 --> 02:28:50,399
you can be to service in this experience

3611
02:28:54,790 --> 02:28:52,720
and help people through those processes

3612
02:28:56,469 --> 02:28:54,800
the more they can serve you in that same

3613
02:28:57,590 --> 02:28:56,479
way you know helping you through that

3614
02:28:59,349 --> 02:28:57,600
process

3615
02:29:01,270 --> 02:28:59,359
so this work we all have to do

3616
02:29:02,950 --> 02:29:01,280
collectively you know the the disclosure

3617
02:29:04,550 --> 02:29:02,960
movement has been a subculture bubble

3618
02:29:05,910 --> 02:29:04,560
for a long time but it's not subculture

3619
02:29:08,389 --> 02:29:05,920
anymore you guys i hate to break it to

3620
02:29:10,550 --> 02:29:08,399
you it's pop culture this is this is

3621
02:29:12,790 --> 02:29:10,560
this is it you know when when we're when

3622
02:29:14,790 --> 02:29:12,800
we when we've got things like you know

3623
02:29:17,190 --> 02:29:14,800
stranger things on netflix talking about

3624
02:29:19,270 --> 02:29:17,200
montauk and it's a and it's a huge pop

3625
02:29:21,670 --> 02:29:19,280
culture phenomenon and everything else

3626
02:29:23,590 --> 02:29:21,680
in the paranormal world and the esoteric

3627
02:29:25,910 --> 02:29:23,600
world you know being a great desire in

3628
02:29:27,750 --> 02:29:25,920
media right now well that's a direct

3629
02:29:30,790 --> 02:29:27,760
reflection of what people are desiring

3630
02:29:32,550 --> 02:29:30,800
to understand and there are lots of

3631
02:29:34,389 --> 02:29:32,560
artists out there like myself and the

3632
02:29:36,950 --> 02:29:34,399
people that were part of this film that

3633
02:29:38,309 --> 02:29:36,960
have great work to do for the people and

3634
02:29:41,349 --> 02:29:38,319
the world that is seeking those

3635
02:29:44,309 --> 02:29:41,359
understandings so i wish you guys all

3636
02:29:46,389 --> 02:29:44,319
luck in the work that you are doing and

3637
02:29:48,790 --> 02:29:46,399
you will find protection in your luck if

3638
02:29:50,950 --> 02:29:48,800
you can trust and love both the light

3639
02:29:53,349 --> 02:29:50,960
and the dark and walk the green path to

3640
02:29:55,429 --> 02:29:53,359
the heart which is the luck you guys

3641
02:29:57,670 --> 02:29:55,439
will all be protected and channel it in

3642
02:30:00,550 --> 02:29:57,680
do the work make the films create the

3643
02:30:02,469 --> 02:30:00,560
art the the whole world is there and and

3644
02:30:05,030 --> 02:30:02,479
is transforming us and we're here to

3645
02:30:07,830 --> 02:30:05,040
record that live it and create with that

3646
02:30:10,230 --> 02:30:07,840
experience you know i uh

3647
02:30:11,510 --> 02:30:10,240
i realized everything that you just said

3648
02:30:14,790 --> 02:30:11,520
right there

3649
02:30:16,710 --> 02:30:14,800
when i discovered rick and morty

3650
02:30:20,630 --> 02:30:16,720
and i was like if this is if this is

3651
02:30:23,190 --> 02:30:20,640
being made we have arrived man

3652
02:30:26,070 --> 02:30:23,200
exactly we have arrived

3653
02:30:27,190 --> 02:30:26,080
we have arrived well listen uh the film

3654
02:30:30,469 --> 02:30:27,200
is great

3655
02:30:32,469 --> 02:30:30,479
uh the reception i can't wait for you to

3656
02:30:35,429 --> 02:30:32,479
enjoy all of that

3657
02:30:36,309 --> 02:30:35,439
your germ of an idea grew in that petri

3658
02:30:40,230 --> 02:30:36,319
dish

3659
02:30:42,070 --> 02:30:40,240
and it's been realized so enjoy the ride

3660
02:30:44,230 --> 02:30:42,080
roger it's going to be a great one thank

3661
02:30:45,670 --> 02:30:44,240
you so much appreciate it brother it's

3662
02:30:47,910 --> 02:30:45,680
great to spend the night with you guys

3663
02:30:50,150 --> 02:30:47,920
and connect with everybody much love to

3664
02:30:52,870 --> 02:30:50,160
all of you out there in this experience

3665
02:30:54,630 --> 02:30:52,880
hold each other tight and love all of

3666
02:30:56,710 --> 02:30:54,640
the challenges in this journey surrender

3667
02:30:59,830 --> 02:30:56,720
to it it's beautiful thank you so much

3668
02:31:03,429 --> 02:30:59,840
roger roger r richards we got the links

3669
02:31:05,590 --> 02:31:03,439
up to the trailer and also uh you can go

3670
02:31:08,469 --> 02:31:05,600
and pre-order the film now the links are

3671
02:31:11,190 --> 02:31:08,479
up in social media jimmychurchradio.com

3672
02:31:13,190 --> 02:31:11,200
everywhere and you can go and do that

3673
02:31:16,070 --> 02:31:13,200
roger i'll speak to you tomorrow my

3674
02:31:19,429 --> 02:31:16,080
friend have a great night i am your host

3675
02:31:21,670 --> 02:31:19,439
jimmy church this is fade to black

3676
02:31:24,630 --> 02:31:21,680
i'm gonna open up the phone lines

3677
02:31:26,150 --> 02:31:24,640
747-228-2051

3678
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:26,160
i'll be right back after this short

3679
02:31:42,469 --> 02:31:27,850
break

3680
02:31:46,150 --> 02:31:44,630
you're listening to jimmy church and

3681
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3682
02:31:56,309 --> 02:31:53,510
hey what up y'all biblical fox here and

3683
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3684
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3685
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3686
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[Music]

3745
02:35:25,590 --> 02:35:22,479
welcome back fade to black i'm yours

3746
02:35:28,469 --> 02:35:25,600
jimmy church roger r richards

3747
02:35:31,190 --> 02:35:28,479
it's an incredible conversation and i

3748
02:35:34,230 --> 02:35:31,200
cannot wait for all of you to see the

3749
02:35:38,150 --> 02:35:34,240
film it is it is really really really

3750
02:35:40,630 --> 02:35:38,160
good i am very proud of it and uh thank

3751
02:35:43,510 --> 02:35:40,640
you roger and we've got the links up uh

3752
02:35:45,910 --> 02:35:43,520
for everybody to go and check it out man

3753
02:35:48,469 --> 02:35:45,920
i've been on the phone all day

3754
02:35:49,510 --> 02:35:48,479
and talking and i did that yesterday too

3755
02:35:51,990 --> 02:35:49,520
as well

3756
02:35:55,349 --> 02:35:52,000
and i'm losing my voice

3757
02:35:58,070 --> 02:35:55,359
and uh yeah am i going to be able to

3758
02:36:03,110 --> 02:35:58,080
make it to the end of the show i've

3759
02:36:06,710 --> 02:36:05,830
and uh let's see who we've got up

3760
02:36:08,309 --> 02:36:06,720
here

3761
02:36:10,469 --> 02:36:08,319
hi you're live on fade to black who's

3762
02:36:13,710 --> 02:36:10,479
calling

3763
02:36:18,469 --> 02:36:13,720
hi jimmy it's debbie cobble

3764
02:36:20,230 --> 02:36:18,479
[Laughter]

3765
02:36:22,550 --> 02:36:20,240
when was the last time you hit that

3766
02:36:24,070 --> 02:36:22,560
dairy queen on 16th and post tell me the

3767
02:36:25,670 --> 02:36:24,080
truth

3768
02:36:31,030 --> 02:36:25,680
oh my goodness

3769
02:36:37,190 --> 02:36:32,950
i still crave a daily bar every now and

3770
02:36:41,830 --> 02:36:39,190
all right well i was listening to your

3771
02:36:44,550 --> 02:36:41,840
show and it was great to hear roger's

3772
02:36:46,790 --> 02:36:44,560
voice again and i just wanted to say

3773
02:36:50,230 --> 02:36:46,800
that i was um

3774
02:36:51,990 --> 02:36:50,240
i was honored to be a part of it

3775
02:36:53,910 --> 02:36:52,000
the observer i was

3776
02:36:58,230 --> 02:36:53,920
i felt

3777
02:37:01,510 --> 02:36:58,240
so grateful to have the opportunity and

3778
02:37:03,429 --> 02:37:01,520
roger was kind and patient with me

3779
02:37:06,550 --> 02:37:03,439
because i was very nervous you know i

3780
02:37:08,309 --> 02:37:06,560
don't do stuff like that very often so

3781
02:37:11,270 --> 02:37:08,319
now and i i

3782
02:37:13,830 --> 02:37:11,280
saw it and i think it's great and

3783
02:37:16,550 --> 02:37:13,840
uh let's talk about that for a second

3784
02:37:18,550 --> 02:37:16,560
debbie and uh

3785
02:37:21,349 --> 02:37:18,560
your contribution to the film and that's

3786
02:37:22,550 --> 02:37:21,359
why i asked roger uh specifically about

3787
02:37:23,670 --> 02:37:22,560
that tonight

3788
02:37:25,910 --> 02:37:23,680
and

3789
02:37:27,750 --> 02:37:25,920
i didn't expect this conversation to

3790
02:37:30,230 --> 02:37:27,760
happen right now between you and i and

3791
02:37:32,790 --> 02:37:30,240
that is precious that is really cool

3792
02:37:34,070 --> 02:37:32,800
but um but but let me ask you about that

3793
02:37:36,710 --> 02:37:34,080
for a second

3794
02:37:40,150 --> 02:37:36,720
um the first night you know you heard

3795
02:37:42,230 --> 02:37:40,160
roger and i uh talk a lot about uh those

3796
02:37:44,309 --> 02:37:42,240
dinners that we had

3797
02:37:46,150 --> 02:37:44,319
um and those dinners were incredible and

3798
02:37:48,230 --> 02:37:46,160
i want everybody to know that was three

3799
02:37:51,590 --> 02:37:48,240
four five hours

3800
02:37:54,469 --> 02:37:51,600
of of madness lots of food

3801
02:37:55,590 --> 02:37:54,479
lots of drink and lots of conversation

3802
02:37:57,510 --> 02:37:55,600
you and i

3803
02:38:01,990 --> 02:37:57,520
um i had the opportunity and the

3804
02:38:02,950 --> 02:38:02,000
privilege to sit next to you um and

3805
02:38:04,630 --> 02:38:02,960
uh

3806
02:38:05,429 --> 02:38:04,640
knowing now

3807
02:38:07,910 --> 02:38:05,439
uh

3808
02:38:11,349 --> 02:38:07,920
what the film is

3809
02:38:13,270 --> 02:38:11,359
but that night at dinner you had no idea

3810
02:38:15,429 --> 02:38:13,280
you hadn't met the crew you hadn't shot

3811
02:38:16,950 --> 02:38:15,439
yet you hadn't done anything

3812
02:38:18,950 --> 02:38:16,960
um

3813
02:38:21,670 --> 02:38:18,960
how nervous were you

3814
02:38:22,950 --> 02:38:21,680
and then how comfortable

3815
02:38:25,990 --> 02:38:22,960
were you

3816
02:38:30,230 --> 02:38:28,070
well i was very nervous at the beginning

3817
02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:30,240
and you know i've

3818
02:38:34,950 --> 02:38:32,800
had very little

3819
02:38:37,670 --> 02:38:34,960
i i've done very little in the way of

3820
02:38:40,389 --> 02:38:37,680
these sort of things because

3821
02:38:42,469 --> 02:38:40,399
when i did do them in the past

3822
02:38:43,429 --> 02:38:42,479
they ended up being

3823
02:38:46,150 --> 02:38:43,439
um

3824
02:38:49,429 --> 02:38:46,160
not what i was led to believe they were

3825
02:38:51,510 --> 02:38:49,439
you know and you can be edited you can

3826
02:38:53,830 --> 02:38:51,520
you can interview somebody can interview

3827
02:38:56,469 --> 02:38:53,840
you for two hours and then they take

3828
02:38:58,550 --> 02:38:56,479
three minutes of what you said and turn

3829
02:39:01,190 --> 02:38:58,560
it into something that you really didn't

3830
02:39:03,830 --> 02:39:01,200
say and make you look completely

3831
02:39:04,710 --> 02:39:03,840
and insane and i've had that happen to

3832
02:39:10,870 --> 02:39:04,720
me

3833
02:39:11,990 --> 02:39:10,880
you know anything so i was nervous um

3834
02:39:14,070 --> 02:39:12,000
but i

3835
02:39:16,790 --> 02:39:14,080
trusted linda

3836
02:39:19,030 --> 02:39:16,800
i've known her for 30 years and i don't

3837
02:39:22,389 --> 02:39:19,040
know just

3838
02:39:24,550 --> 02:39:22,399
something about this

3839
02:39:26,550 --> 02:39:24,560
felt like it was something i should do

3840
02:39:28,469 --> 02:39:26,560
it was one of those moments where

3841
02:39:30,950 --> 02:39:28,479
uh you know i get asked

3842
02:39:33,030 --> 02:39:30,960
a lot of times to do things and

3843
02:39:35,110 --> 02:39:33,040
most of the time i say no

3844
02:39:38,630 --> 02:39:35,120
but every now and then i have

3845
02:39:40,870 --> 02:39:38,640
something will happen and it it

3846
02:39:43,670 --> 02:39:40,880
i feel a compulsion to do it like i'm

3847
02:39:45,110 --> 02:39:43,680
pushed to do it like you somehow

3848
02:39:47,030 --> 02:39:45,120
something in the universe is saying you

3849
02:39:48,950 --> 02:39:47,040
need to go and do this

3850
02:39:50,870 --> 02:39:48,960
and so i went even though i was nervous

3851
02:39:52,550 --> 02:39:50,880
and then once i met

3852
02:39:53,429 --> 02:39:52,560
everybody and

3853
02:39:55,190 --> 02:39:53,439
uh

3854
02:39:58,630 --> 02:39:55,200
started talking and then by the time we

3855
02:40:01,270 --> 02:39:58,640
were done when i had my last

3856
02:40:03,349 --> 02:40:01,280
interview before i went home with roger

3857
02:40:05,510 --> 02:40:03,359
and i don't know we sat there and talked

3858
02:40:07,990 --> 02:40:05,520
you know he filmed me but

3859
02:40:09,830 --> 02:40:08,000
as i was talking to him i felt like all

3860
02:40:12,950 --> 02:40:09,840
that went away and it was just he and i

3861
02:40:14,550 --> 02:40:12,960
connecting and i just felt

3862
02:40:16,950 --> 02:40:14,560
comfortable

3863
02:40:19,190 --> 02:40:16,960
and i and and within those moments in

3864
02:40:21,110 --> 02:40:19,200
the end that i was feeling like yeah

3865
02:40:23,269 --> 02:40:21,120
this was the right thing for me to do

3866
02:40:24,790 --> 02:40:23,279
this is where i should be this is what i

3867
02:40:26,630 --> 02:40:24,800
should be doing

3868
02:40:29,429 --> 02:40:26,640
and i you know kind of connected with

3869
02:40:31,030 --> 02:40:29,439
him in some way on some other level and

3870
02:40:32,230 --> 02:40:31,040
understood that

3871
02:40:35,429 --> 02:40:32,240
you know

3872
02:40:37,429 --> 02:40:35,439
this was this was

3873
02:40:40,550 --> 02:40:37,439
an important thing and i was and that

3874
02:40:42,870 --> 02:40:40,560
was that moment too that i felt so

3875
02:40:44,630 --> 02:40:42,880
blessed to have been

3876
02:40:49,110 --> 02:40:44,640
included in it and to have been a part

3877
02:40:52,230 --> 02:40:51,429
you bring up a really interesting point

3878
02:40:53,269 --> 02:40:52,240
and

3879
02:40:56,550 --> 02:40:53,279
uh

3880
02:40:58,950 --> 02:40:56,560
this isn't a spoiler alert okay but i

3881
02:41:00,389 --> 02:40:58,960
want everybody to understand

3882
02:41:03,190 --> 02:41:00,399
that uh

3883
02:41:05,750 --> 02:41:03,200
it's debbie's words

3884
02:41:06,710 --> 02:41:05,760
that close the film

3885
02:41:11,429 --> 02:41:06,720
and

3886
02:41:14,710 --> 02:41:11,439
probably watching the film at the same

3887
02:41:17,269 --> 02:41:14,720
time i was right as as we got

3888
02:41:18,710 --> 02:41:17,279
the release and and i got to the end of

3889
02:41:19,910 --> 02:41:18,720
the film

3890
02:41:21,269 --> 02:41:19,920
and

3891
02:41:22,389 --> 02:41:21,279
uh

3892
02:41:23,590 --> 02:41:22,399
you

3893
02:41:27,510 --> 02:41:23,600
none of us

3894
02:41:29,590 --> 02:41:27,520
had any idea that it was going to be you

3895
02:41:32,710 --> 02:41:29,600
that was closing out the film

3896
02:41:35,670 --> 02:41:32,720
but i was certainly surprised right

3897
02:41:38,630 --> 02:41:35,680
right right and this is the but this is

3898
02:41:41,030 --> 02:41:38,640
the thing uh like roger had brought up

3899
02:41:42,710 --> 02:41:41,040
you're having a conversation uh you

3900
02:41:43,429 --> 02:41:42,720
don't know

3901
02:41:45,110 --> 02:41:43,439
uh

3902
02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:45,120
necessarily how it's going to fit

3903
02:41:48,469 --> 02:41:46,960
ultimately in the film

3904
02:41:50,950 --> 02:41:48,479
but your

3905
02:41:52,070 --> 02:41:50,960
your words were the perfect closing it

3906
02:41:54,070 --> 02:41:52,080
was a gift

3907
02:41:56,950 --> 02:41:54,080
right it was the perfect closing to the

3908
02:42:00,790 --> 02:41:56,960
film but i have to ask you debbie

3909
02:42:04,150 --> 02:42:00,800
how did you feel as you got to the end

3910
02:42:06,950 --> 02:42:04,160
did did that surprise you and and what

3911
02:42:09,910 --> 02:42:06,960
went through your mind

3912
02:42:11,910 --> 02:42:09,920
i was shocked and i thought

3913
02:42:14,230 --> 02:42:11,920
well

3914
02:42:17,910 --> 02:42:14,240
you know me i kind of i'm kind of salty

3915
02:42:21,590 --> 02:42:19,429
right that was the first thought that

3916
02:42:23,670 --> 02:42:21,600
came in my mind and i'm like

3917
02:42:24,870 --> 02:42:23,680
and then i thought

3918
02:42:30,389 --> 02:42:24,880
yeah

3919
02:42:31,910 --> 02:42:30,399
it works and it's not just for me all

3920
02:42:33,429 --> 02:42:31,920
you know what i mean although i was

3921
02:42:35,110 --> 02:42:33,439
speaking

3922
02:42:35,830 --> 02:42:35,120
of myself but

3923
02:42:40,790 --> 02:42:35,840
it

3924
02:42:42,710 --> 02:42:40,800
came together and we all brought a piece

3925
02:42:45,030 --> 02:42:42,720
of ourselves

3926
02:42:47,510 --> 02:42:45,040
and our unique perspective

3927
02:42:49,510 --> 02:42:47,520
of this huge thing

3928
02:42:52,150 --> 02:42:49,520
sorry about my dog oh i love it don't

3929
02:42:55,030 --> 02:42:52,160
worry about it i love it

3930
02:42:57,830 --> 02:42:55,040
you know i it just

3931
02:42:59,030 --> 02:42:57,840
there was so many different um it was

3932
02:43:00,790 --> 02:42:59,040
different people

3933
02:43:02,950 --> 02:43:00,800
different uh

3934
02:43:05,030 --> 02:43:02,960
experiences a different level you know

3935
02:43:07,349 --> 02:43:05,040
whitley and i

3936
02:43:09,510 --> 02:43:07,359
of course whitley's much more well-known

3937
02:43:11,750 --> 02:43:09,520
than i am but he's an experiencer like

3938
02:43:13,429 --> 02:43:11,760
me and

3939
02:43:16,020 --> 02:43:13,439
uh

3940
02:43:17,510 --> 02:43:16,030
then you know linda howe you like the

3941
02:43:19,349 --> 02:43:17,520
[Music]

3942
02:43:21,830 --> 02:43:19,359
the queen

3943
02:43:24,309 --> 02:43:21,840
certainly for

3944
02:43:26,950 --> 02:43:24,319
and everything and and richard

3945
02:43:28,870 --> 02:43:26,960
ethan dolan

3946
02:43:30,630 --> 02:43:28,880
i mean is that his middle name i think

3947
02:43:32,630 --> 02:43:30,640
yes it is real i don't know it's

3948
02:43:34,630 --> 02:43:32,640
official now

3949
02:43:37,190 --> 02:43:34,640
that is his middle name

3950
02:43:39,830 --> 02:43:37,200
it's like you know it's like

3951
02:43:42,950 --> 02:43:39,840
these people i mean i was so

3952
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:42,960
humbled to be a part of this group

3953
02:43:48,469 --> 02:43:46,000
and you know in retrospect thinking we

3954
02:43:51,990 --> 02:43:48,479
all came and brought a piece of

3955
02:43:53,349 --> 02:43:52,000
of our world within ufology and pulled

3956
02:43:54,230 --> 02:43:53,359
it all together

3957
02:43:57,110 --> 02:43:54,240
and

3958
02:43:58,469 --> 02:43:57,120
um i just think that it's

3959
02:44:00,710 --> 02:43:58,479
i don't know when i watched the

3960
02:44:03,190 --> 02:44:00,720
completed project like i said i've been

3961
02:44:04,550 --> 02:44:03,200
involved in things before where you

3962
02:44:07,030 --> 02:44:04,560
you know you could be interviewed for

3963
02:44:10,230 --> 02:44:07,040
two hours edited down to two minutes and

3964
02:44:12,550 --> 02:44:10,240
make no sense at all but

3965
02:44:15,030 --> 02:44:12,560
roger didn't do that to me and he didn't

3966
02:44:17,269 --> 02:44:15,040
do that to any of us and

3967
02:44:19,349 --> 02:44:17,279
first of all i was grateful for that and

3968
02:44:20,630 --> 02:44:19,359
i as i watched and i thought oh god i

3969
02:44:22,309 --> 02:44:20,640
look horrible

3970
02:44:24,150 --> 02:44:22,319
oh you look great

3971
02:44:26,710 --> 02:44:24,160
oh man you look crazy

3972
02:44:28,150 --> 02:44:26,720
no no no no you look great but but but

3973
02:44:30,230 --> 02:44:28,160
let me say this

3974
02:44:32,230 --> 02:44:30,240
uh this is this is i'm gonna share with

3975
02:44:34,389 --> 02:44:32,240
you what went through my mind and i'm

3976
02:44:35,190 --> 02:44:34,399
not making any of this up

3977
02:44:37,830 --> 02:44:35,200
so

3978
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:37,840
at that moment as you said the last

3979
02:44:40,870 --> 02:44:39,120
lines i didn't know it was the last

3980
02:44:42,389 --> 02:44:40,880
lines in the film right

3981
02:44:43,590 --> 02:44:42,399
but as you

3982
02:44:45,429 --> 02:44:43,600
spoke

3983
02:44:47,830 --> 02:44:45,439
and that concluded this is what i said i

3984
02:44:48,710 --> 02:44:47,840
said roger better roll credits right

3985
02:44:51,830 --> 02:44:48,720
here

3986
02:44:52,790 --> 02:44:51,840
and then the credits roll

3987
02:44:55,990 --> 02:44:52,800
i went

3988
02:45:00,070 --> 02:44:56,000
man man man

3989
02:45:01,910 --> 02:45:00,080
right uh right on debbie i was so proud

3990
02:45:04,230 --> 02:45:01,920
of of

3991
02:45:07,110 --> 02:45:04,240
of the way that you presented yourself

3992
02:45:08,550 --> 02:45:07,120
but this is the thing though debbie

3993
02:45:11,030 --> 02:45:08,560
um

3994
02:45:11,910 --> 02:45:11,040
it is difficult

3995
02:45:14,230 --> 02:45:11,920
for

3996
02:45:17,110 --> 02:45:14,240
those out there that have gone through

3997
02:45:19,030 --> 02:45:17,120
experiences similar to yours

3998
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:19,040
to verbalize it

3999
02:45:23,030 --> 02:45:21,520
to speak about it most of it and i'm

4000
02:45:25,910 --> 02:45:23,040
going to say

4001
02:45:28,309 --> 02:45:25,920
like nearly 100 percent

4002
02:45:31,590 --> 02:45:28,319
is kept on the inside

4003
02:45:34,550 --> 02:45:31,600
it is very rare for somebody to come out

4004
02:45:37,429 --> 02:45:34,560
and speak about something so personal

4005
02:45:40,469 --> 02:45:37,439
and not only did you do that

4006
02:45:43,190 --> 02:45:40,479
but i think i hope that you know

4007
02:45:45,590 --> 02:45:43,200
that you've let other experiencers out

4008
02:45:47,429 --> 02:45:45,600
there know that they can talk about this

4009
02:45:51,510 --> 02:45:47,439
now

4010
02:45:53,590 --> 02:45:51,520
it is not this taboo thing anymore

4011
02:45:55,190 --> 02:45:53,600
and and you did that it's not it's not

4012
02:45:57,590 --> 02:45:55,200
taboo anymore

4013
02:45:59,349 --> 02:45:57,600
right

4014
02:46:01,750 --> 02:45:59,359
yeah i wanted people

4015
02:46:05,190 --> 02:46:01,760
that that was one of the things that i

4016
02:46:06,469 --> 02:46:05,200
wanted to do in doing this was and i

4017
02:46:12,150 --> 02:46:06,479
mentioned it

4018
02:46:14,309 --> 02:46:12,160
during several of my interviews that um

4019
02:46:16,309 --> 02:46:14,319
the stigma

4020
02:46:18,230 --> 02:46:16,319
it's a lot better than was 30 years ago

4021
02:46:19,910 --> 02:46:18,240
when i first started talking about my

4022
02:46:21,830 --> 02:46:19,920
experiences in public

4023
02:46:24,710 --> 02:46:21,840
and i've been called all kinds of names

4024
02:46:26,150 --> 02:46:24,720
and dragged and and i'm over it i don't

4025
02:46:28,309 --> 02:46:26,160
even care what people think anymore

4026
02:46:29,670 --> 02:46:28,319
clearly or i wouldn't be doing what i

4027
02:46:33,269 --> 02:46:29,680
just did

4028
02:46:35,590 --> 02:46:33,279
uh on you know this film but

4029
02:46:37,030 --> 02:46:35,600
i wanted other people out there to to

4030
02:46:40,790 --> 02:46:37,040
realize it

4031
02:46:43,510 --> 02:46:40,800
it's okay now um times have changed

4032
02:46:45,670 --> 02:46:43,520
and uh

4033
02:46:47,750 --> 02:46:45,680
i feel like there's strength in numbers

4034
02:46:49,750 --> 02:46:47,760
and that that we

4035
02:46:50,950 --> 02:46:49,760
you know for every i i made a comment

4036
02:46:52,790 --> 02:46:50,960
for every

4037
02:46:54,710 --> 02:46:52,800
one person there is like me that's

4038
02:46:56,630 --> 02:46:54,720
willing to even say a tiny little bit

4039
02:46:58,469 --> 02:46:56,640
about what kind of weirdness they've

4040
02:46:59,830 --> 02:46:58,479
experienced there's probably a hundred

4041
02:47:01,510 --> 02:46:59,840
thousand other people that are never

4042
02:47:04,790 --> 02:47:01,520
going to open their mouth and i can

4043
02:47:06,790 --> 02:47:04,800
respect that and relate to that but

4044
02:47:08,950 --> 02:47:06,800
uh you know when i stood when i started

4045
02:47:10,790 --> 02:47:08,960
hearing about these pilots and all these

4046
02:47:13,590 --> 02:47:10,800
people with impeccable

4047
02:47:15,590 --> 02:47:13,600
credibility that were terrified to speak

4048
02:47:17,590 --> 02:47:15,600
about things they saw every day for two

4049
02:47:21,349 --> 02:47:17,600
years right i thought this has got to

4050
02:47:23,190 --> 02:47:21,359
stop this gotta stop and people like me

4051
02:47:24,389 --> 02:47:23,200
of whitley and other people who had

4052
02:47:26,550 --> 02:47:24,399
experiences

4053
02:47:29,349 --> 02:47:26,560
have been trying to come forward and

4054
02:47:31,590 --> 02:47:29,359
talk uh you know i made myself a target

4055
02:47:33,910 --> 02:47:31,600
and i'm that's fine i don't

4056
02:47:35,990 --> 02:47:33,920
it whatever will be people have their

4057
02:47:38,150 --> 02:47:36,000
own reasons for the way they behave

4058
02:47:39,750 --> 02:47:38,160
toward me and i get that

4059
02:47:42,150 --> 02:47:39,760
but um

4060
02:47:43,830 --> 02:47:42,160
i just wanted uh

4061
02:47:45,750 --> 02:47:43,840
to do my part

4062
02:47:48,389 --> 02:47:45,760
to help people out there who've had

4063
02:47:49,830 --> 02:47:48,399
experiences feel more comfortable

4064
02:47:51,830 --> 02:47:49,840
talking about them but it's not it's

4065
02:47:54,309 --> 02:47:51,840
still not easy for me you can see in

4066
02:47:56,710 --> 02:47:54,319
this film when i talk that sometimes i

4067
02:47:58,550 --> 02:47:56,720
still have a hard time

4068
02:48:00,389 --> 02:47:58,560
talking and when i hear the words come

4069
02:48:02,550 --> 02:48:00,399
out of my mouth i'm thinking oh my god i

4070
02:48:04,630 --> 02:48:02,560
can't believe i'm saying this in public

4071
02:48:07,030 --> 02:48:04,640
but i'm doing it you know

4072
02:48:10,389 --> 02:48:07,040
and uh it has gotten a little easier in

4073
02:48:12,950 --> 02:48:10,399
30 years but it's still not easy but i

4074
02:48:15,269 --> 02:48:12,960
just i i just hope that

4075
02:48:17,590 --> 02:48:15,279
i can help other people like me feel

4076
02:48:20,150 --> 02:48:17,600
more comfortable talking about their

4077
02:48:21,830 --> 02:48:20,160
weird experiences now

4078
02:48:24,630 --> 02:48:21,840
um

4079
02:48:25,670 --> 02:48:24,640
are you re have you thought about

4080
02:48:27,830 --> 02:48:25,680
uh

4081
02:48:30,630 --> 02:48:27,840
are you ready

4082
02:48:34,230 --> 02:48:30,640
for a little more limelight you know to

4083
02:48:36,630 --> 02:48:34,240
come back because now you're back

4084
02:48:39,830 --> 02:48:36,640
uh you know on a stage this is this is

4085
02:48:43,269 --> 02:48:39,840
out this is for everybody to see now

4086
02:48:45,670 --> 02:48:43,279
um are are you prepared for that and and

4087
02:48:48,550 --> 02:48:45,680
is your family aware

4088
02:48:52,230 --> 02:48:48,560
of of this film and and what may or may

4089
02:48:56,830 --> 02:48:52,240
not happen over the next year

4090
02:49:00,469 --> 02:48:59,190
and they know

4091
02:49:01,670 --> 02:49:00,479
they know me

4092
02:49:03,750 --> 02:49:01,680
they've been

4093
02:49:05,830 --> 02:49:03,760
a lot of them have witnessed

4094
02:49:08,309 --> 02:49:05,840
some things i've witnessed you know my

4095
02:49:09,670 --> 02:49:08,319
family is aware of it people that i used

4096
02:49:11,910 --> 02:49:09,680
to work with friends i have now

4097
02:49:14,230 --> 02:49:11,920
everybody in my life in my circle which

4098
02:49:15,910 --> 02:49:14,240
and i keep my circle small

4099
02:49:18,469 --> 02:49:15,920
but my circle

4100
02:49:19,590 --> 02:49:18,479
it knows you know and and whatever will

4101
02:49:21,750 --> 02:49:19,600
be will be

4102
02:49:23,590 --> 02:49:21,760
they've all come to realize over the

4103
02:49:25,349 --> 02:49:23,600
years that this is

4104
02:49:27,510 --> 02:49:25,359
a part of me

4105
02:49:28,630 --> 02:49:27,520
it's a part of who i am and it's a part

4106
02:49:30,070 --> 02:49:28,640
of my

4107
02:49:30,870 --> 02:49:30,080
destiny

4108
02:49:33,590 --> 02:49:30,880
and

4109
02:49:36,389 --> 02:49:33,600
you know as far as

4110
02:49:41,190 --> 02:49:36,399
haters go or or people who want to you

4111
02:49:43,190 --> 02:49:41,200
know make i i've reached an age where i

4112
02:49:44,950 --> 02:49:43,200
you don't give me the only people that i

4113
02:49:46,950 --> 02:49:44,960
don't give i don't give a [\h__\h] anymore

4114
02:49:48,469 --> 02:49:46,960
the only people that i care about are

4115
02:49:49,990 --> 02:49:48,479
the people that i love and i already

4116
02:49:51,590 --> 02:49:50,000
know what they think and they're all

4117
02:49:53,429 --> 02:49:51,600
good with it so

4118
02:49:54,469 --> 02:49:53,439
let's just roll

4119
02:49:58,070 --> 02:49:54,479
it's time

4120
02:50:01,429 --> 02:49:58,080
yes it is it is now um i made a comment

4121
02:50:03,190 --> 02:50:01,439
uh to roger earlier and i say this with

4122
02:50:05,030 --> 02:50:03,200
such endearing love

4123
02:50:06,950 --> 02:50:05,040
but you are

4124
02:50:09,030 --> 02:50:06,960
the person next door

4125
02:50:09,990 --> 02:50:09,040
you are american that's who you are

4126
02:50:13,110 --> 02:50:10,000
right

4127
02:50:16,150 --> 02:50:13,120
and you just don't know who may or may

4128
02:50:18,469 --> 02:50:16,160
not have had these types of experiences

4129
02:50:20,550 --> 02:50:18,479
and and you certainly represent that but

4130
02:50:22,230 --> 02:50:20,560
i want to ask you this

4131
02:50:23,510 --> 02:50:22,240
uh the comment that i made is you know

4132
02:50:25,349 --> 02:50:23,520
you need to be careful when you're

4133
02:50:27,990 --> 02:50:25,359
walking down the street

4134
02:50:28,870 --> 02:50:28,000
uh and and who's and who's walking past

4135
02:50:31,510 --> 02:50:28,880
you

4136
02:50:33,429 --> 02:50:31,520
and and and and being judgmental right

4137
02:50:36,630 --> 02:50:33,439
and you need to be very careful with

4138
02:50:39,429 --> 02:50:36,640
that but i wanted to ask you this

4139
02:50:41,910 --> 02:50:39,439
do you ever walk past somebody

4140
02:50:44,469 --> 02:50:41,920
and go that's an experiencer

4141
02:50:46,550 --> 02:50:44,479
is there a vibe that goes on can you

4142
02:50:48,230 --> 02:50:46,560
pick up on it

4143
02:50:51,110 --> 02:50:48,240
sometimes i can

4144
02:50:52,710 --> 02:50:51,120
yes and when i need somebody i don't

4145
02:50:54,630 --> 02:50:52,720
know what it is

4146
02:50:56,550 --> 02:50:54,640
look in their eye

4147
02:50:58,870 --> 02:50:56,560
feel the

4148
02:51:01,830 --> 02:50:58,880
energy around them or something i just

4149
02:51:04,630 --> 02:51:01,840
pick up on something it's a little radar

4150
02:51:08,230 --> 02:51:04,640
that's built into me i don't know why

4151
02:51:10,550 --> 02:51:08,240
um but yes i do um

4152
02:51:15,110 --> 02:51:13,750
i have been surprised also

4153
02:51:16,950 --> 02:51:15,120
you know i've

4154
02:51:19,429 --> 02:51:16,960
worked all my life i've worked since i

4155
02:51:21,590 --> 02:51:19,439
was 15 and a half years old and last 15

4156
02:51:23,510 --> 02:51:21,600
years my life's been in a factory

4157
02:51:25,510 --> 02:51:23,520
and

4158
02:51:27,830 --> 02:51:25,520
when they first started to

4159
02:51:31,190 --> 02:51:27,840
find out about me there

4160
02:51:33,349 --> 02:51:31,200
you i was even surprised at the number

4161
02:51:35,910 --> 02:51:33,359
of people who came up to me and wanted

4162
02:51:37,910 --> 02:51:35,920
to talk about ufo stuff and then started

4163
02:51:40,150 --> 02:51:37,920
to tell me their own story people that i

4164
02:51:41,429 --> 02:51:40,160
would not have

4165
02:51:44,630 --> 02:51:41,439
guessed

4166
02:51:49,110 --> 02:51:46,389
that's one of the reasons why i feel

4167
02:51:51,349 --> 02:51:49,120
like and then being out in conferences

4168
02:51:52,230 --> 02:51:51,359
and meeting people around the country

4169
02:51:53,110 --> 02:51:52,240
um

4170
02:51:55,269 --> 02:51:53,120
you

4171
02:51:57,349 --> 02:51:55,279
for every person like me there's there's

4172
02:51:58,469 --> 02:51:57,359
ten thousand a hundred thousand people

4173
02:52:00,469 --> 02:51:58,479
out there that are never going to speak

4174
02:52:02,469 --> 02:52:00,479
to anybody but they felt comfortable

4175
02:52:05,030 --> 02:52:02,479
coming and talking to me when i

4176
02:52:07,750 --> 02:52:05,040
i let them know that i was open to it

4177
02:52:11,349 --> 02:52:07,760
you know by talking about myself

4178
02:52:12,830 --> 02:52:11,359
so um but yeah there are times uh when i

4179
02:52:15,110 --> 02:52:12,840
can meet

4180
02:52:17,910 --> 02:52:15,120
someone and talk to him for a couple of

4181
02:52:19,429 --> 02:52:17,920
minutes and i'm like yep

4182
02:52:21,510 --> 02:52:19,439
they use one of them

4183
02:52:24,630 --> 02:52:21,520
do you guys ever compare notes

4184
02:52:25,990 --> 02:52:24,640
you know the private stuff

4185
02:52:29,110 --> 02:52:26,000
sometimes

4186
02:52:32,630 --> 02:52:29,120
you know um

4187
02:52:35,670 --> 02:52:32,640
most more more with women i think i have

4188
02:52:37,429 --> 02:52:35,680
uh compared notes more with women uh

4189
02:52:39,990 --> 02:52:37,439
you know

4190
02:52:43,030 --> 02:52:40,000
especially with the uh

4191
02:52:44,469 --> 02:52:43,040
extremely weird stuff sure most of the

4192
02:52:46,950 --> 02:52:44,479
time when i

4193
02:52:48,389 --> 02:52:46,960
compare notes with guys it's it's the

4194
02:52:50,710 --> 02:52:48,399
hardcore

4195
02:52:52,389 --> 02:52:50,720
um it's like the mark in the yard stuff

4196
02:52:54,870 --> 02:52:52,399
and you know

4197
02:52:58,710 --> 02:52:54,880
things that are uh more solid

4198
02:53:01,670 --> 02:52:58,720
the evidential stuff but yeah yeah the

4199
02:53:05,110 --> 02:53:01,680
more the nuts and bolts thing and then

4200
02:53:06,070 --> 02:53:05,120
yeah but but when you're talking with uh

4201
02:53:08,150 --> 02:53:06,080
uh

4202
02:53:11,670 --> 02:53:08,160
a female

4203
02:53:14,389 --> 02:53:11,680
does is it more of the emotional uh

4204
02:53:16,070 --> 02:53:14,399
things that have happened

4205
02:53:17,990 --> 02:53:16,080
it's the emotional things that have

4206
02:53:19,830 --> 02:53:18,000
happened and it's um

4207
02:53:21,750 --> 02:53:19,840
very protective things that would have

4208
02:53:23,429 --> 02:53:21,760
happened i mean you'd be surprised how

4209
02:53:24,389 --> 02:53:23,439
many women have had

4210
02:53:30,469 --> 02:53:24,399
uh

4211
02:53:32,309 --> 02:53:30,479
know i mean even even the doctor told me

4212
02:53:34,469 --> 02:53:32,319
when i was a kid and my mom and i were

4213
02:53:36,309 --> 02:53:34,479
in there he said we see this a lot you

4214
02:53:38,389 --> 02:53:36,319
know

4215
02:53:40,230 --> 02:53:38,399
i'm thinking you do

4216
02:53:41,990 --> 02:53:40,240
i've never heard about it

4217
02:53:44,469 --> 02:53:42,000
but um

4218
02:53:46,790 --> 02:53:44,479
so yeah women are more

4219
02:53:48,870 --> 02:53:46,800
women will come up to me and tell me

4220
02:53:50,150 --> 02:53:48,880
those parts of their stories that

4221
02:53:52,469 --> 02:53:50,160
they're not i'm

4222
02:53:54,230 --> 02:53:52,479
i you know i wasn't comfortable sharing

4223
02:53:58,070 --> 02:53:54,240
it with a man

4224
02:54:00,870 --> 02:53:58,080
so i i get that but

4225
02:54:03,110 --> 02:54:00,880
yeah it's it's going to get interesting

4226
02:54:05,910 --> 02:54:03,120
this next year

4227
02:54:07,030 --> 02:54:05,920
and i'm i'm ready i for when i first saw

4228
02:54:12,309 --> 02:54:07,040
the

4229
02:54:13,670 --> 02:54:12,319
uh

4230
02:54:15,590 --> 02:54:13,680
you know at the end there where i said

4231
02:54:17,990 --> 02:54:15,600
oh [\h__\h]

4232
02:54:19,110 --> 02:54:18,000
okay i better buckle my seatbelt because

4233
02:54:21,429 --> 02:54:19,120
this one

4234
02:54:23,429 --> 02:54:21,439
might uh

4235
02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:23,439
might do something well

4236
02:54:26,550 --> 02:54:25,200
there's there's another part of this

4237
02:54:29,030 --> 02:54:26,560
that that

4238
02:54:31,750 --> 02:54:29,040
i kind of enjoy and kind of laugh at and

4239
02:54:34,950 --> 02:54:31,760
it's the little things like uh

4240
02:54:38,309 --> 02:54:34,960
the warren central famous alumni page

4241
02:54:40,710 --> 02:54:38,319
right it'll be ryan murphy

4242
02:54:43,990 --> 02:54:40,720
and debbie cobble right and

4243
02:54:46,070 --> 02:54:44,000
there's that part of it and jimmy jerk

4244
02:54:47,110 --> 02:54:46,080
well you know i don't know i don't know

4245
02:54:49,750 --> 02:54:47,120
if

4246
02:54:51,269 --> 02:54:49,760
warren central uh will will will honor

4247
02:54:52,349 --> 02:54:51,279
me with that but then there's you know

4248
02:54:57,830 --> 02:54:52,359
like

4249
02:54:59,830 --> 02:54:57,840
wibc or you know indy fox news

4250
02:55:02,870 --> 02:54:59,840
indianapolis zone debbie cobble is

4251
02:55:05,429 --> 02:55:02,880
featured in a new ufo documentary debbie

4252
02:55:09,349 --> 02:55:05,439
welcome to good day

4253
02:55:10,550 --> 02:55:09,359
indianapolis right and and there's that

4254
02:55:14,550 --> 02:55:10,560
part of it

4255
02:55:17,030 --> 02:55:14,560
where the the indianapolis kind of thing

4256
02:55:19,429 --> 02:55:17,040
where you are that

4257
02:55:22,469 --> 02:55:19,439
you know and and i i love it and i hope

4258
02:55:25,990 --> 02:55:24,389
well you know when bud's book first came

4259
02:55:27,510 --> 02:55:26,000
out it was on the new york times

4260
02:55:29,590 --> 02:55:27,520
bestseller list for a while and i

4261
02:55:30,550 --> 02:55:29,600
actually was approached by the indie

4262
02:55:31,670 --> 02:55:30,560
star

4263
02:55:33,670 --> 02:55:31,680
and a

4264
02:55:35,510 --> 02:55:33,680
a guy i can't

4265
02:55:36,630 --> 02:55:35,520
remember his name now but he came out to

4266
02:55:40,230 --> 02:55:36,640
the house

4267
02:55:42,950 --> 02:55:40,240
and did an article about me and my

4268
02:55:45,830 --> 02:55:42,960
family and interviewed mom and dad

4269
02:55:46,790 --> 02:55:45,840
took pictures of the yard and all that

4270
02:55:49,190 --> 02:55:46,800
um

4271
02:55:51,429 --> 02:55:49,200
abe amador that was his name

4272
02:55:56,070 --> 02:55:51,439
do you remember that name

4273
02:56:01,110 --> 02:55:57,990
he came to the house and did an article

4274
02:56:02,870 --> 02:56:01,120
about our family which you know

4275
02:56:05,590 --> 02:56:02,880
um

4276
02:56:07,190 --> 02:56:05,600
they used the pseudonym

4277
02:56:08,870 --> 02:56:07,200
and of course they didn't

4278
02:56:10,389 --> 02:56:08,880
give the address

4279
02:56:13,429 --> 02:56:10,399
but uh

4280
02:56:16,550 --> 02:56:13,439
we still had a couple of uh

4281
02:56:17,190 --> 02:56:16,560
people who were persistent

4282
02:56:18,950 --> 02:56:17,200
and

4283
02:56:21,030 --> 02:56:18,960
of course once they met my father they

4284
02:56:22,150 --> 02:56:21,040
never came back so

4285
02:56:24,389 --> 02:56:22,160
but uh

4286
02:56:26,550 --> 02:56:24,399
i mean that was that was when bud's book

4287
02:56:27,510 --> 02:56:26,560
first came out when intruders came out

4288
02:56:29,590 --> 02:56:27,520
you know

4289
02:56:31,910 --> 02:56:29,600
i don't think i there wasn't anything on

4290
02:56:33,910 --> 02:56:31,920
television at the time but there was

4291
02:56:37,750 --> 02:56:33,920
some new newsprint

4292
02:56:41,190 --> 02:56:37,760
well indianapolis um it it's it's it's

4293
02:56:43,830 --> 02:56:41,200
it's a big city by indiana standards

4294
02:56:47,429 --> 02:56:43,840
right but it's a small town

4295
02:56:49,590 --> 02:56:47,439
it's indianapolis is a small town and

4296
02:56:51,590 --> 02:56:49,600
and everybody knows everybody

4297
02:56:53,429 --> 02:56:51,600
everybody's in everybody's business and

4298
02:56:56,230 --> 02:56:53,439
i love that part

4299
02:56:59,590 --> 02:56:56,240
of of indianapolis it may be a city they

4300
02:57:01,349 --> 02:56:59,600
got an nfl team they got the nba but

4301
02:57:03,030 --> 02:57:01,359
it's a small town

4302
02:57:06,870 --> 02:57:03,040
and uh

4303
02:57:08,790 --> 02:57:06,880
they are very proud of of hoosiers and

4304
02:57:10,870 --> 02:57:08,800
and and the people that live there and

4305
02:57:13,110 --> 02:57:10,880
like i said you're a big part of that i

4306
02:57:14,550 --> 02:57:13,120
love i love nap town

4307
02:57:17,269 --> 02:57:14,560
and and just thank you for your

4308
02:57:20,389 --> 02:57:17,279
contributions to this film and and and

4309
02:57:23,349 --> 02:57:20,399
everything i i will not forget

4310
02:57:26,469 --> 02:57:23,359
when you and i were sitting next to uh

4311
02:57:28,550 --> 02:57:26,479
and we're talking we had no idea that we

4312
02:57:30,309 --> 02:57:28,560
went to the same high school

4313
02:57:32,710 --> 02:57:30,319
we didn't know

4314
02:57:34,630 --> 02:57:32,720
that we grew up in the same neighborhood

4315
02:57:37,030 --> 02:57:34,640
we didn't know we didn't know any of

4316
02:57:38,790 --> 02:57:37,040
those things and and once all of that

4317
02:57:40,070 --> 02:57:38,800
was revealed for the both i'm

4318
02:57:42,469 --> 02:57:40,080
comfortable

4319
02:57:44,870 --> 02:57:42,479
now you are but i think the universe

4320
02:57:47,269 --> 02:57:44,880
brought us together and and i really

4321
02:57:49,670 --> 02:57:47,279
appreciate it and thank you

4322
02:57:54,550 --> 02:57:49,680
and you know i mean nothing happened to

4323
02:57:57,750 --> 02:57:54,560
in my opinion nothing happens by chance

4324
02:57:59,990 --> 02:57:57,760
there is a reason behind everything that

4325
02:58:01,429 --> 02:58:00,000
happens that that was synchro

4326
02:58:04,070 --> 02:58:01,439
synchronicity

4327
02:58:06,630 --> 02:58:04,080
you know yeah and and you made me feel

4328
02:58:08,790 --> 02:58:06,640
comfortable when i spit when i when i

4329
02:58:11,750 --> 02:58:08,800
realized you know

4330
02:58:14,469 --> 02:58:11,760
all that about you i felt like i had one

4331
02:58:16,950 --> 02:58:14,479
of my home homies there you know i felt

4332
02:58:19,750 --> 02:58:16,960
i felt more comfortable and

4333
02:58:21,830 --> 02:58:19,760
i felt very comfortable around you and

4334
02:58:22,469 --> 02:58:21,840
i mean you could get my who's your humor

4335
02:58:27,429 --> 02:58:22,479
and

4336
02:58:28,870 --> 02:58:27,439
feel like it that was there was reason

4337
02:58:31,429 --> 02:58:28,880
for that

4338
02:58:33,110 --> 02:58:31,439
i'm grateful i couldn't believe when you

4339
02:58:34,710 --> 02:58:33,120
and i are sitting there dropping things

4340
02:58:35,990 --> 02:58:34,720
like irvington

4341
02:58:38,630 --> 02:58:36,000
shadeland

4342
02:58:41,269 --> 02:58:38,640
autobahn right and

4343
02:58:43,190 --> 02:58:41,279
things that only beau rick's at 10th and

4344
02:58:47,269 --> 02:58:43,200
mitthoeffer that's right

4345
02:58:49,269 --> 02:58:47,279
only only those from the hood

4346
02:58:51,030 --> 02:58:49,279
would know those things and i was just

4347
02:58:52,550 --> 02:58:51,040
blown away i was like man this is going

4348
02:58:53,670 --> 02:58:52,560
to be great

4349
02:58:55,830 --> 02:58:53,680
so

4350
02:58:57,830 --> 02:58:55,840
and and to me yeah that was great it was

4351
02:58:59,750 --> 02:58:57,840
great i'm i'm grateful

4352
02:59:01,510 --> 02:58:59,760
for the entire experience i'm grateful

4353
02:59:03,269 --> 02:59:01,520
that i met roger i'm grateful that i met

4354
02:59:05,349 --> 02:59:03,279
you and leon and

4355
02:59:07,830 --> 02:59:05,359
and everybody and i'm

4356
02:59:09,830 --> 02:59:07,840
grateful for being able to be a part of

4357
02:59:11,110 --> 02:59:09,840
this which i think is going to be

4358
02:59:13,349 --> 02:59:11,120
historic

4359
02:59:15,510 --> 02:59:13,359
yeah and i'm so grateful yeah there's no

4360
02:59:17,990 --> 02:59:15,520
question about it debbie and again thank

4361
02:59:19,110 --> 02:59:18,000
you for your contribution uh not only to

4362
02:59:21,750 --> 02:59:19,120
the film

4363
02:59:24,870 --> 02:59:21,760
but to this community and it's going to

4364
02:59:25,470 --> 02:59:24,880
be a wild ride buckle up man it's going

4365
02:59:27,510 --> 02:59:25,480
to be great

4366
02:59:29,510 --> 02:59:27,520
[Laughter]

4367
02:59:31,590 --> 02:59:29,520
thank you so much deb enjoy the rest of

4368
02:59:33,429 --> 02:59:31,600
your night give my best to the family

4369
02:59:35,830 --> 02:59:33,439
and everybody else back there in nap

4370
02:59:37,990 --> 02:59:35,840
town now go do some white castle and

4371
02:59:38,950 --> 02:59:38,000
i'll talk to you later

4372
02:59:42,230 --> 02:59:38,960
all right

4373
02:59:44,870 --> 02:59:42,240
bye-bye debbie cobble and the links for

4374
02:59:48,070 --> 02:59:44,880
the film again are up in social media

4375
02:59:51,750 --> 02:59:48,080
they are right below in the description

4376
02:59:55,750 --> 02:59:51,760
box it's all right there the film is the

4377
02:59:56,870 --> 02:59:55,760
observers it premieres november 18th in

4378
02:59:58,870 --> 02:59:56,880
two weeks

4379
03:00:01,030 --> 02:59:58,880
fade to black is produced by hill j palm

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until then i want everybody to be safe

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